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« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2015, 09:16:21 PM »
Once again, and for the last time, Orca's are not endangered. So what "awareness" is needed, certainly what awareness is needed that justifys torturing a self-aware highly Intelligent and social animal? All for the purposes of entertainment and cash. Does SW pay its share holders or groups that help Orca's "which dont even need help cause they arent endangered and cant be legally killed anyways"?

You dont seem to get it. This is a corporation that systematically tried to cover up the damage it was doing to both the animals and the handlers. All in the name of profit.

If there was no demand for such spectacles there would be no market for them.

How about horses? or Dogs? Dont you think they would rather be running around roaming free too?
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« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2015, 09:53:27 PM »
Orca's are far more intelligent then either. As in "problem solving" Intelligence. Orca's teach their young, and each other, sophisticated behaviors and even speak to each other. Of course people dont stick horses or dogs in cages with strangers for a life sentence either. I expect even tho they arent as bright they'd go mad as well.

Not that I'd compare them because horses and dogs have been domesticated for many thousands of years anyways.
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« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2015, 08:15:06 AM »
Ahh so it is about how sexy they are. In this case the sexiness is based on intelligence.

Horses are so well domesticated over thousands of years. They dont even need to be broken anymore. Just saddle up and go.

Lots of animals have problem solving intelligence. Dogs would be among that list. My last golden in particular would have been a good example.

Given their druthers. Any animal would rather be roaming around free. Dogs and horses are kept in cages of sorts. Be it a house a barn or a yard. on a leash etc etc

And how do you know they feel tortured? You did a Vulcan mind meld and they told you?
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« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2015, 08:48:54 AM »
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And how do you know they feel tortured? You did a Vulcan mind meld and they told you?

No there is no "Vulcan" or people from Vulcan. That was a TV show.

Orca's in captivity, all of them, end up with a flailed top fin. Like Tilicum which is featured in the Doc "Black Fish". Many other disturbing behaviors have been seen in captive Orca's too, just try renting and watching the movie. http://blackfishmovie.com/ By "disturbing behaviors" I mean like killing their trainers, trying to kill their trainers, attacking other Orca's in the bath tub....ect Heck you can tell when your dog is emotionally a mess imagine how easy it must be with such an intelligent animal as an Orca?

An Orca is a wild animal ; It has no comparison with a domesticated pet. In the wild they have never attacked a human but in captivity they have attacked humans nearly two dozen times. A characterization of the Orca's intelligence
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researchers describe incidents in which wild killer whales playfully tease humans by repeatedly moving objects the humans are trying to reach, or suddenly start to toss around a chunk of ice after a human throws a snowball.

The killer whale's use of dialects and the passing of other learned behaviors from generation to generation have been described as a form of animal culture.

    "The complex and stable vocal and behavioral cultures of sympatric groups of killer whales (Orcinus orca) appear to have no parallel outside humans and represent an independent evolution of cultural faculties."

I never used the word "sexy" either. This thread is starting to reach the point of no return between the Bully and the Vulcan who thinks is bird dog is the same kind of animal as a wild 11,000 lb Orca. I myself believe people are "aware" of them even if they dont pay $30 a pop to watch them jump in a bath tub. Its just the circus act they want to see, just like with the croc guy "ex", the snake guy, the ex-Bear guy, the Lion girl, the shark guy....All of them seeking fame and $$$ while hiding behind conservation.
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« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2015, 06:10:40 PM »
No there is no "Vulcan" or people from Vulcan. That was a TV show.

Orca's in captivity, all of them, end up with a flailed top fin. Like Tilicum which is featured in the Doc "Black Fish". Many other disturbing behaviors have been seen in captive Orca's too, just try renting and watching the movie. http://blackfishmovie.com/ By "disturbing behaviors" I mean like killing their trainers, trying to kill their trainers, attacking other Orca's in the bath tub....ect Heck you can tell when your dog is emotionally a mess imagine how easy it must be with such an intelligent animal as an Orca?

An Orca is a wild animal ; It has no comparison with a domesticated pet. In the wild they have never attacked a human but in captivity they have attacked humans nearly two dozen times. A characterization of the Orca's intelligence
I never used the word "sexy" either. This thread is starting to reach the point of no return between the Bully and the Vulcan who thinks is bird dog is the same kind of animal as a wild 11,000 lb Orca. I myself believe people are "aware" of them even if they dont pay $30 a pop to watch them jump in a bath tub. Its just the circus act they want to see, just like with the croc guy "ex", the snake guy, the ex-Bear guy, the Lion girl, the shark guy....All of them seeking fame and $$$ while hiding behind conservation.

I beg to differ.

I thought perhaps you two were related inasmuch as you know whale a whale is thinking and all.

The whale told this guy she was pregnant. So see. There are Vulcans outside of TV shows!




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« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2015, 07:39:20 PM »
"They are not, the hell your whales."  :D
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« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2015, 07:48:06 PM »
"They are not, the hell your whales."  :D

Well thats what Rich would say too.
He is after all part Vulcan.

I wanna know how he knows an Ora never attacked a Human? They must have told him?

I would think considering that they can do to other animals. There wouldnt be much left of a human for the Human to tell us. So the Orca much have told Rich.
And what if the Orca was lying like other highly intelligent creatures. How does Rich know they told him the truth?
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« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2015, 09:01:46 PM »

An Orca is a wild animal ; It has no comparison with a domesticated pet. In the wild they have never attacked a human but in captivity they have attacked humans nearly two dozen times.


There are at least a half dozen documented and confirmed cases of Orcas in the wild attacking human beings.
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« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2015, 10:28:17 PM »
Here's a dumb copperhead who slithered into my properly this week.  My good neighbor thought quick and sawed the filthy serpent in half with a hedge trimmer.  He was all tired and hungry, running from the flood, so it was funny that he met his end like that, like a chump.

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« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2015, 11:13:49 PM »
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« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2015, 05:37:59 AM »
 :rofl "like a chump."
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« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2015, 06:21:10 AM »
Only male Orcas in captivity have fins that collapse, not females. I would like to read of the documented cases. I would suspect it has happened. They are predators and solve problems with their teeth, as all predators do at times.

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« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2015, 09:48:15 PM »
There are at least a half dozen documented and confirmed cases of Orcas in the wild attacking human beings.
There is half a dozen youtube videos of it...heck one came right up on the beach and grabbed a guy....never seen a great white do that...actually never seen a video of a Great White winning a fight against a Orca....it's almost as if the whale does it for sport.
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« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2015, 02:37:16 AM »
There is half a dozen youtube videos of it...heck one came right up on the beach and grabbed a guy....never seen a great white do that...

You mean that famous video video made for a La Sirena retail store advertisement? ;)
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« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2015, 02:54:33 AM »
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