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Offline MickDono

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Re: speak out
« Reply #105 on: June 23, 2015, 10:22:13 AM »
If honey bees die some lab will invent self pollinating plants and charge us $100 for a turnip :old:

The Eastern Europeans will then dominate the world.

Turnips will be the new oil and the middle east will revert back to riding camels.

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« Reply #106 on: June 23, 2015, 05:53:49 PM »
Only the honey bee native to Japan has developed the over heating strategy.

Imported honey bees become Hornet chow along with smaller wasps and hornets. Even Preying mantis are not safe and the sting and the hornet's aggressiveness deters many other usual hornet, wasp and bee predators. In Asia the primary predator of the hornets is human beings who eat them. In japan there is a Hornet sashimi.

Anyone allergic to bee stings will be in danger of death inside of 30 minutes without an EPIPen. Others, severe burning, swelling with the initial wound sight oozing blood and possible kidney clogging. Even necrotic response at the wound sight. This is not your normal yellow jacket or hornet. The stinger is about 1\4 inch long and will introduce an 8 part venom deep enough with each sting to create rapid complications. One enzyme in the toxin destroys red blood cells which can cause kidney problems along with a necrotic response in tissue.

Often it is the lone scout that suddenly nails you out of no where because they are that fast. If you happen to run into a nest area, multiply that effect. Nests are under ground and can be up to 36in in diameter by that much in depth. At the very lowest layers all larva production is of Queens. Upwards of 100 in most cases. Winter kills off the workers but, the queen can over winter and start another colony the next spring. They have evolved in Japan's mountainous regions that have very severe winters. If you do not find the nest and account for the queen larva's, each queen is born ready to lay eggs and start the cycle all over again. They are able to survive as far north or south as honey bees.

All that is needed like happened to France, one Queen surviving the journey to your country. So far they can be found in Korea, China, Indonesia, India, Russia, France and the sighting of one in Illinois is still waiting for proof by finding a real Hornet. Or, someone to piss off a scout and get stung.   
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Re: speak out
« Reply #107 on: June 23, 2015, 06:11:49 PM »
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« Reply #108 on: June 24, 2015, 12:22:22 AM »
Are the North Koreans to blame?
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Re: speak out
« Reply #109 on: June 24, 2015, 02:25:49 PM »
I watched a tarantula hawk (giant wasp) kill a tarantula and drag it off to a hole in New Mexico.  Pretty interesting stuff.
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« Reply #110 on: June 24, 2015, 03:12:49 PM »
All of the U.S. on the same parallel as Japan would become a Science Fiction movie gone bad. I doubt the Illinois sighting because where there is one giant Hornet scout, there is a nest with 100 queen larva waiting to spread out and start their own nests. And a nest in a highly populated suburb would have at least one dead person by now along with many in the hospital with severe exotic sting reactions that the local bees and wasps are not capable of.

It is more likely the European Hornet which is slightly smaller but, still large in it's own right and less agressive, is what was sighted. They have been in the U.S. for some time.

It doesn't take long to know that you have a nest of those things in your country. They are just a bit smaller than a hummingbird. Illinois should have been similar to France with discovering they have arrived where a family was cooking steaks in the backyard, and a single scout stung the father who died in 30 minutes. They have been in France since 2004 with 6 fatalities. A single scout can kill 40 honey bees a minute, and the scouts target honey bee nests, leave an attractor pheromone, and bring back 20-30 more hornets to kill the bees for food.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/16/asian-hornets-killed-6-france-britain_n_5158733.html

If this is not a hoax, England has been invaded by French Hornets. :O  Chances are the person who killed them mistook European Hornet's for Asian because of reports out of France. England has reported no fatalities which is how every country they have invaded has discovered their presence. They are very aggressive and mean.

http://www.blackmorevale.co.uk/Giant-hornets-spotted-Blandford/story-26739191-detail/story.html
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Re: speak out
« Reply #111 on: June 24, 2015, 06:12:42 PM »




Are yellow jackets really that strong good vs other wasp/hornet species?
No they are just real bastages. Live in the ground sometime you don't see em until its too late. Had a friend move here for LA never seen a yellow jacket until he got lit up mowing his yard, then gets lit up again because he's looking in the trees for them lol. Only thing I have personally seen tangling with a yellow jacket was a woodboring bee. I just see this ball of something flying at me, it bounces of my face and hits the ground and its a yellow jacket and a borer going at it.
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Re: speak out
« Reply #112 on: June 25, 2015, 02:11:29 PM »
I'll take bee or wasp stings over a yellow jacket any day.

Yellow jackets don't loose their stinger, and keep stabbing away, just to fly away and sting another day.

I got 40+ stings on my lower legs from a swarm once. I could hardly get my boots off, and my feet were so swollen that they looked like adult sized baby feet.

Ever since that episode, it seems like I'm allergic to stings. Now one sting has the same effect as that 40.
 
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« Reply #113 on: June 25, 2015, 02:41:46 PM »
Kinda funny bee story:

Years ago I had my 8 year old (at the time) son on the back of my bike.  As we rode along I was suddenly hit right between the eyes by a bee.  The bee managed to lodge itself in the nose piece of my sunglasses and sure enough, stung me.  I yelled "OOOOWWWWW" and felt the sharp sting go right in between my eyes but kept control of the bike until it came to a stop.

When I pulled off the glasses the bee's body fell down and hit my leg but I was pretty sure the stinger was still there, so I turned around and asked my son if he could see it.  "Yes" he said.  "Well PULL IT OUT" I said to him.

He reached for it and suddenly stopped "Will it hurt?" he asked.

"I don't know, not as much as it hurts now, just pull the darn thing out" was my reply.

"No, I meant Will it hurt ME?" he clarified.

My response cannot be repeated here.  lol
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Re: speak out
« Reply #114 on: June 25, 2015, 02:47:02 PM »

"No, I meant Will it hurt ME?" he clarified.

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« Reply #115 on: June 25, 2015, 03:18:53 PM »


"No, I meant Will it hurt ME?" he clarified.

My response cannot be repeated here.  lol

Smart kid    :rofl :aok
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« Reply #116 on: June 25, 2015, 07:12:56 PM »
Yeah, I used to fish in the neighborhood when I was a kid, went out in the woods and caught my own bait I learned pretty quick to check logs for bees before I moved them  had some jackets chase me at least 30 yards stinging the hell out of me all the way once, also to stand with the log between me and anything under that log.
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« Reply #117 on: June 25, 2015, 08:18:38 PM »
Kinda funny bee story:

When I was young I had a Honda Super 90.  I was riding the 15 miles to a neighboring town to take my road test for my license endorsement and was tooling along with my mouth open when I felt a ball of fur on my tongue.  It was a bumblebee and it stung my bottom lip as I spit it out.  My lip swole up to just under the size of a golf ball which the road test guy evidently found hilarious.

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Re: speak out
« Reply #118 on: June 25, 2015, 08:25:31 PM »
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Re: speak out
« Reply #119 on: June 25, 2015, 08:53:02 PM »
Timothy Treadwell....what a guy! The LSD addict reformed by the wild grizzly. He's my favorite Disney Loon. The guy I really look to to do the complete opposite of. He "loved his Bears" so much he would camp out with them to protect them, "even tho they were on protected National Land" and couldnt be hunted anyways. In his deranged mind the people coming with cameras to photograph them from hundreds of yards away were "endangering HIS Bears" so he would calm them and walk up to them on all fours "coo-cooing" to calm them.

Like the screw balls that spend millions on rigs to protect whales that arent endangered and are allowed to be hunted by INTL treaty. Im sure Timothy didnt want money out of it. In the end they all want fame. Instead of just allowing the animals to be free under rule of Law they want something from nature that people cant give them and in the end their selfishness wins over. With Treadwell his narcissism and idiocy cost the lives of two Grizzly's along with a woman 'et. Himself.....'et. Im sure that was the way he wanted to go until it actually became the way he went.

They should release the audio tape of him being 'et. It might prevent more Treadwells.


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