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Offline mthrockmor

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To European members
« on: July 05, 2015, 02:45:10 PM »
Do me a favor...

American media is very dishonest. I suspect European media is about the same. The question is what interest is being served. I understand the Greeks just rejected the IMF bailout plan, which is going to hurt the Euro currency.

Without violating Rule #4 with commentary, could you post links to stories that inform as to what is going on? I strongly suspect this could be a big deal in the world markets and I really like reading different views.

When it comes to Skuzzy et al, so long as we only post links to stories without comment we should be fine. This is informational only...

And Skuzzy, if you need to block a comment with a link, please leave the link.

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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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Re: To European members
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2015, 02:53:13 PM »
Quote from: mthrockmor on July 05, 2015, 02:45:10 PM
Do me a favor...

American media is very dishonest. I suspect European media is about the same. The question is what interest is being served. I understand the Greeks just rejected the IMF bailout plan, which is going to hurt the Euro currency.

Without violating Rule #4 with commentary, could you post links to stories that inform as to what is going on? I strongly suspect this could be a big deal in the world markets and I really like reading different views.

When it comes to Skuzzy et al, so long as we only post links to stories without comment we should be fine. This is informational only...

And Skuzzy, if you need to block a comment with a link, please leave the link.

boo

I'm currently following the events in Greece. The government arranged a ballot that was very vague, the people didn't know exactly what they were voting for. Many thought the vote meant dropping out of Euro but Syriza refuted that as the first thing when the 'no' vote was obvious. The whole thing is still wide open.
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Re: To European members
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2015, 03:11:28 PM »
This is State side.  It has been the most informative US site I have found so far:

Interesting high level overview of Greek issue since end of WWII.  A little more detail would have been nice (for me) - other than that interview is a little choppy in places.

The Modern History of the Greek Debt Crisis
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=13220



Just plain interesting.....

US Hedge Funds Get Bailed Out If Greeks Pass Bailout Referendum (1/2)
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14132
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Offline Zimme83

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Re: To European members
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2015, 03:24:39 PM »
Europe will prob not suffer that much, it have been plenty of time to minimize the risks. noone is sitting with large risky investments in Greece anymore.
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Offline zack1234

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Re: To European members
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2015, 04:00:56 PM »
The Greeks will not leave the EU.

And the unelected decision makers who run the EU know it.

This charade is for those who think they know a bit about politics.

Next month it will be north korea again.

How old do you need to be to get wise to it.

The AH update is more important than a load of tax dodging work 3 hours a day plate chuckers

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Offline Zimme83

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Re: To European members
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2015, 04:03:54 PM »
Thats not really true, People in Greece works at average at least as much as other European. Problem is an ineffective IRS that are incapable of doing their job along with corruption.
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Offline mthrockmor

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Re: To European members
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2015, 04:20:15 PM »
The Guardian ran a story noting the massive tax evasion and welfare fraud found in Greece. Of course, this doesn't speak for the entire people though it is large. In fact, they estimate upwards of $20 billion a year goes uncollected in taxes.

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Offline Zimme83

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2015, 04:30:47 PM »
Former head of the Swedish IRS, he worked as advisor for the Greece IRS in 2013 and his opinion is that it had a "high level of incompetence, corruption and lack of political will to do any real changes to the agency".

His conclusion is that it doesnt matter what they do since the responsible agency is incapable of conducting it.


(from an article in a swedish newspaper)
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Re: To European members
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2015, 05:14:13 PM »
That's my take on it as well Zimme. It doesn't matter much what the Greek politicians decide. Their entire government and bureaucracy is so corrupt and incompetent that they can't implement any major change. Greece used to pay its bills by printing money. A way of taxation that is common in chaotic, unorganized countries. They can't do that in the Eurozone since they don't control the printing press.
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Offline ghi

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Re: To European members
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2015, 06:49:35 PM »
Quote from: mthrockmor on July 05, 2015, 02:45:10 PM
Do me a favor...

American media is very dishonest. I suspect European media is about the same.

 could you post links to stories that inform as to what is going on? I strongly suspect this could be a big deal in the world markets and I really like reading different views.


  http://www.spiegel.de/international/
http://www.zerohedge.com/
http://rt.com/
http://beforeitsnews.com/
http://www.lefigaro.fr/
http://www.aljazeera.com/
http://lunaticoutpost.com/
http://www.lemonde.fr/
http://www.ora.tv/offthegrid
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/
http://www.euronews.com/news/streaming-live/
 http://english.pravda.ru/
http://www.infowars.com/

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Offline RotBaron

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Re: To European members
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2015, 07:46:20 PM »
Uhhh, I got a vacay for posting a link...so...

good luck
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Offline RotBaron

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Re: To European members
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2015, 07:47:06 PM »
CNS news dot com

a lot less dishonest...
« Last Edit: July 05, 2015, 08:51:46 PM by RotBaron »
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Re: To European members
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2015, 08:45:37 PM »
CNN coverage of the greek mess is pretty much worthless.  Very low fact content.
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Re: To European members
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2015, 08:52:14 PM »
Quote from: eagl on July 05, 2015, 08:45:37 PM
CNN coverage of the greek mess is pretty much worthless.  Very low fact content.


CNS not CNN
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Offline Bizman

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2015, 01:52:42 AM »
The election procedure reminds me of Luke 2-3: The Greek had to enrol in their home location for voting. In our local paper there was this tourist trinkets seller who couldn't afford losing one day's income plus costs for traveling 400 km each way for voting. Supposedly he wasn't the only one.
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