Cecil killed with a bow and arrow

[bustr]

At least it was not a whole herd of elephants left to rot in the sun for ivory.

[Karnak]

At least it was not a whole herd of elephants left to rot in the sun for ivory.

I doubt there will be any elephants left in the wild by the time I die.

[Aspen]

If laws were broken, justice should be served.   In Africa, the hunter has very little control over the details and how a hunt takes place.  Hunts, licenses, dates, areas and often specific animals to be taken are tightly controlled by the Professional Hunters (outfitter/guide) and land owners.  Its possible the dentist may have known what was going on but its very plausible that he figured everything was by the book. I haven't read all the details yet.

African lions are not an endangered species. 

[FX1]

My father rule as a hunter was to never shoot anything that had a collar. This hunter knew something was up when he released the arrow. Sneaking up on the king of the jungle is very dangerous especially within bow range.

[Dichotomy]

To clarify my previous posts, I have nothing against hunting. Been hunting for many years myself. However, poaching is a despicable crime which hurts not only wildlife, but legitimate hunters as well.

I used to hunt.  I loved going out with my Grandfather for quail, dove, and rabbits.  After he died I kind of lost interest.  Went on a couple of deer hunts with a guy who's dad had 450 acres and year round deer feeders.  Seemed like a lazy and shifty way to do it.  So I gave it up.  Now I'd have a hard time pulling a trigger on an animal unless it was threatening me.

That said I have no issue with people who do it and find enjoyment in it so long as they're following the law.  Granted I have teased some 'mighty deer hunters' telling them that if they wanted to make it sporting they should go out in a loin cloth with a buck knife.  That gets some of the dumb ones pretty spun up and it's amusing.  Or back when I was playing AH I'd give our office hunter guff telling him that I hunted people and didn't have a bag limit. 

But I agree Predator.  If you're poaching you're a piece of filth and you're giving people who do things correctly and within the law a huge black eye.  And sadly thanks to the internet the drama queens will scream the loudest. 

[ink]

this person would be unrecognizable if they gave me ten minutes with him.


that's my one and only post on this subject.

[PR3D4TOR]

You monster!

[zack1234]

I support Zack's rage rant. 

It is unacceptable!  And dentists are pure evil...

I have three sets of teeth, well two new sets one set was from a rummage sale which i use when i fly AH, they tend to fall out when i get all excited when owning Bruv or joker

[FLOOB]

African lions are not an endangered species.

A lot of whales aren't either but you see how nut jobs freak out when we hunt them.

[FLOOB]

this person would be unrecognizable if they gave me ten minutes with him.


that's my one and only post on this subject.

He killed a massive lion with a bow and arrow, what possible chance do you think you'd have?

[GSakis]

He killed a massive lion with a bow and arrow, what possible chance do you think you'd have?

What ink meant is he would tattoo him all over.

[danny76]

Dentists are simply butchers who failed the exam

[deSelys]

While I'm no hunter and would prefer that people would go after animals for fun with cameras instead of guns or bows, I understand the economic realities of wildlife preserves and I'm not shocked by people paying big amounts of money to get the right to kill some animals. As I'm not anymore shocked by pictures of them posing with their lion trophy than by others posing with a dead rabbit or a freshly caught carp.

OTOH I'm appalled by the violence of the mass- and social-media reactions against this guy, dentist-lion-killer or not. Drunk drivers who wipe out a whole family, rapists and murderers don't get so much worldwide outrage. I can't imagine what his kids must go through. So +1 with Bustr.

Go watch this educational speech, it's time to step out of the emotional bandwagon and go back to measure and reason : http://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_what_happens_when_online_shaming_spirals_out_of_control

[mbailey]

While I'm no hunter and would prefer that people would go after animals for fun with cameras instead of guns or bows, I understand the economic realities of wildlife preserves and I'm not shocked by people paying big amounts of money to get the right to kill some animals. As I'm not anymore shocked by pictures of them posing with their lion trophy than by others posing with a dead rabbit or a freshly caught carp.

OTOH I'm appalled by the violence of the mass- and social-media reactions against this guy, dentist-lion-killer or not. Drunk drivers who wipe out a whole family, rapists and murderers don't get so much worldwide outrage. I can't imagine what his kids must go through. So +1 with Bustr.

Go watch this educational speech, it's time to step out of the emotional bandwagon and go back to measure and reason : http://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_what_happens_when_online_shaming_spirals_out_of_control

Hunters and guides in Africa (and here for that fact) are one of the main reasons species like the rhino and elephant still exist. Their money is what supports their conservation, buys millions of acres of land and are one of the first line of defense against poachers. That is fact..
As much as people hate it, this dentist by spending that money has done more than most of the social media bleeding hearts out there.  That said I believe he's still a jrkoff for shooting a collared animal. That is an animal being tracked and studied to assist in conserving the species, and the fact that the animal was a local favorite being used to educate people on lions. That and the issue he had with the Bear he took a few years ago shows that he may be questionable when it comes to his hunting ethics. I'm also not thrilled he went after such a large animal with a bow....the thought of wounding an animal is every hunters nightmare....and while I don't condone bow hunting I don't/won't  do it.

Like it or not, the people (me as a hunter included) who are vilified for hunting are the #1 contributors to the conservation of not only game animals but other species as well. Thankfully we know the good we do, and will continue to do.

[MiloMorai]

He killed a massive lion with a bow and arrow, what possible chance do you think you'd have?

He only wounded with an arrow. He killed with a rifle almost 2 days later.