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Offline Kratzer

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« on: October 25, 2001, 12:52:00 PM »
So I was curious how different AC stack up against the N1K2, because I don't stack up well (1 - 5 this tour - ouch!)... I found, out of 37 fighters, 21 had a positive ratio vs. the N1K2 (the 190F8 is actually included in these stats, but it is a fence sitter, as it is generally an attack aircraft, and I tried to leave attack aircraft (TBM, Il-2, Mossie) out of the equation).

Some interesting things - in *general*, some of the 'worse', or 'more difficult' to fly aircraft fared better vs. the N1K2 - which I suppose means that better pilots gravitate towards the less obvious rides.

Every Luftwaffe fighter (barring the 190F8, which, as noted, is a maybe for our purposes anyway) has a positive ratio vs. the N1K2.  

Some aircraft that you might expect to see a lot from (La7s come to mind), didn't make the cut.

Anyway, here they are - don't get mad at me - I'm not trying to make a point - I just looked this up, so I thought I'd share.  They are arranged by descending by ratio.

1. Tempest - 36 - 13 (2.77 damn!)
2. Me262 - 120 - 45 (2.67 - surprise, surprise)
3. Ta152 - 17 - 7 (2.43)
4.(t) 190A5 - 217 - 123 (1.76)
4.(t) F4U1C - 218 - 124 (1.76)
6. 190D9 - 275 - 181 (1.52)
7. 109F4 - 159 - 113 (1.41)
8. 190A8 - 129 - 92 (1.40)
9. Typhoon - 288 - 215 (1.34)
10. c.205 - 236 - 184 (1.28) (no thanks to me! 0 -1)

11. P47D25 - 80 - 67 (1.19)
12.(t) 109G10 - 367 - 310 (1.18)
12.(t) Yak9U - 202 - 171 (1.18)
14. 109G2 - 78 - 67 (1.16)
15. F4U4 - 38 - 33 (1.15)
16. 109G6 - 135 - 118 (1.14)
17. Hurc2c - 308 - 276 (1.12)
18. SpitIX - 1184 - 1087 (1.09)
19. La5 - 54 - 51 (1.06)
20. Ki61 - 111 - 100 (1.01)
21. P51D - 640 - 638 (1.00)

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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2001, 05:57:00 PM »
Ask yourself this: How many n1ks are upped in last ditch field defense? How many get vulched?

If they didnt do that their kill ratio would be as obscene as their very presence in the game is.  :D

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2001, 06:21:00 PM »
Well... I guess I kind of thought so too, but this proves that theory wrong a bit... I've still seen some N1K2s do some manuevers that are pretty fishy, but I think I'm allowing myself to be too intimidated.

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2001, 07:23:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Tac:
Ask yourself this: How many n1ks are upped in last ditch field defense? How many get vulched?

If they didnt do that their kill ratio would be as obscene as their very presence in the game is.   :D

lol Tac.  How many other planes do the same?  IMO the N1k has been effectively neutered now.  They are much easier to kill and less widely used than before 1.08 (at least in my timezone).

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2001, 08:12:00 PM »
No, no, mako.  Everyone knows the amazing speed of the hurricane makes it an offensive powerhouse, never ever used for field defense.

How else could it beat the oh so incredible hang on the prop unstoppable loop forever turbolaser niki?

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2001, 08:19:00 PM »
I haven't had too many problems with Nik2s the thing i hate is how whenever you are closing in on their tail they reverse and ALWAYS try to HO you this is the effect of it's 4 20MMs.

Another thing is i like realism and only about 400Nik2s ever saw combat (probably less) it wasn't that abundant

But if you are a competent fighter and avoid their damn turbo lazer HO they are easy kills (for me at least  :))

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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2001, 08:59:00 PM »
I havent flown much this tour untill this past weak. I have noticed far fewer Georges in the air. I also have spent nearly all tour in the C. 205 the other night I killed a ton of thean while vulching. I kept thinking why arent they using Zero's? The Zero is better off the line than the George(IMO).

  I havent flow the George but once or twice this tour, it seamed slower( it was already slow), my experence with slower ftr's and KD ratio is that you may be able to out turn theam but you can't run away,invarably sombody will pick you off in a turn fight.

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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2001, 01:46:00 AM »
It has 2,000 horsepower and it is slow.

Why?

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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2001, 02:06:00 AM »
because its ubber plane  :D

BTW i told long time ago that most of N1K pilots are ACM,E fight lames ! So most of them left their UFO. They cant dive with tiffie,pony,Yaku anymore.. so they will not get any kill   :p

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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2001, 02:08:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Kratzer:

1. Tempest - 36 - 13 (2.77 damn!)
2. Me262 - 120 - 45 (2.67 - surprise, surprise)
3. Ta152 - 17 - 7 (2.43)
4.(t) 190A5 - 217 - 123 (1.76)
4.(t) F4U1C - 218 - 124 (1.76)
6. 190D9 - 275 - 181 (1.52)
7. 109F4 - 159 - 113 (1.41)
8. 190A8 - 129 - 92 (1.40)
9. Typhoon - 288 - 215 (1.34)
10. c.205 - 236 - 184 (1.28) (no thanks to me! 0 -1)

11. P47D25 - 80 - 67 (1.19)
12.(t) 109G10 - 367 - 310 (1.18)
12.(t) Yak9U - 202 - 171 (1.18)
14. 109G2 - 78 - 67 (1.16)
15. F4U4 - 38 - 33 (1.15)
16. 109G6 - 135 - 118 (1.14)
17. Hurc2c - 308 - 276 (1.12)
18. SpitIX - 1184 - 1087 (1.09)
19. La5 - 54 - 51 (1.06)
20. Ki61 - 111 - 100 (1.01)
21. P51D - 640 - 638 (1.00)


what is this ?

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2001, 03:10:00 AM »
Good stuff Kratzer, interesting.

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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2001, 03:24:00 AM »
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How else could it beat the oh so incredible hang on the prop unstoppable loop forever turbolaser niki?

 lol, this is an easy one..

 Zero-like maneuverabilty + QUAD Hispanos - what more answers does one need?

 Move outta the way and spray behind them. Case closed.

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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2001, 04:30:00 AM »
Does anyone flying Nikis, Zekes, Spitties or Hurries ever look at instruments (airspeed, climb, g's ...)? No, actually they dont need it  ;)  :)
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2001, 04:42:00 AM »
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Does anyone flying Nikis, Zekes, Spitties or Hurries ever look at instruments (airspeed, climb, g's ...)? No, actually they dont need it  ;) :)

Yes. I check them frequently.

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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2001, 06:52:00 AM »
Flying angle-fiters is fun, I admit. Probably they would make more sense within a rolling plane set (I know, many players dont like this thing). Actually, with the Main full of fast 1944-45 fiters they usually break-turn, break-turn and ... sometimes they even Split-S  ;) This is another problem due to our plane set. Imagine an A6M3 in an early war Pacific map/arena. It could be the wonderful fiter it actually was. Or the Spitfire MkV in a 1941 European Arena ... just my two €.
"And one of the finest aircraft I ever flew was the Macchi C.205. Oh, beautiful. And here you had the perfect combination of italian styling and german engineering .... it really was a delight to fly ... and we did tests on it and were most impressed." - Captain Eric Brown