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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #270 on: October 07, 2015, 01:37:56 PM »
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=77


Here are some stats for 25-35 year olds based on education. Of course the #s are simply measures and not the same for everyone, but non the less they represent what education can give you in the future.

Now, compare them with 18 YO salaries right out of high school, they are looking at roughly 27K or less per year. It takes a person 5-7 years with no college degree to make 30K per year. At a 30K per year salary, you cannot afford college, you cannot afford insurance, phone bills, cars, babies, rent, you name it, you cannot afford very much at all. We are literally screaming at the older generation to wake up and realize this problem, but your only argument is that we are lazy. This is why America is staggering while the rest of the world is catching up to us. The stats are clear as day, just like reading a businesses financial ratios, they tell the story.
They're doing it bassackward, you're supposed to get your education and then move to the states. If I go to the doctor and his english isn't labored and unbroken I question his credentials because I've either traveled back in time or this guy is no doctor.
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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #271 on: October 07, 2015, 01:44:31 PM »
Additionally, you seem to be thinking from the stand point that an education should be a purely practical matter. How do do taxes, how to handle life, simply how to survive. This is not the starting assumption for most of the Western world
Sir that view may be well and good for most of the Western world but it is unamerican.  :old:

An american education is a capital investment. Not some hippy enlightenment commune.
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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #272 on: October 07, 2015, 02:13:09 PM »
There is a big difference between perception and real life. You perceive that a 14-18 YO is suppose to develop life skills that allow them to succeed in America. You perceive that a 14-18 YO is suppose to act like an adult. You perceive that every 14-20 YO is going to be a business owner or a lawyer or an doctor without first going to college. You perceive that these kids could actually find a job right after high school for them to provide for themselves. You perceive that an 18 YO is suppose to understand what debt feels like, even though they've never handled more than $1000 in their life.


Before we talk about what's really happening let's look at all the new straw men you just posted and try to find where I said any of those things.
Then we'll talk.   :D

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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #273 on: October 07, 2015, 02:24:59 PM »
Before we talk about what's really happening let's look at all the new straw men you just posted and try to find where I said any of those things.
Then we'll talk.   :D

No, you believe that a kid right out of high school is suppose to be well adept to living like an adult and they are suppose to be able to financially support themselves with a job after graduation. Who's fault is it that they are 18 yo and naive?  That's a stupid argument. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Take out a loan and afford college to afford to live, or get a job making $8/hr,  spend 7 years to reach 30K and that's about it for them. This is a different socitey than you grew up in. The only strawman is what's left inside the kid after he gets taken advantage of for 8 years and still cannot afford to live decently.

The old age workforce in America is a potato peeling joke. 
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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #274 on: October 07, 2015, 02:50:40 PM »
At what age do you think kids should be considered adults?

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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #275 on: October 07, 2015, 02:52:52 PM »
25.

I mean if they cannot afford to live out of there parents house with the current job market and wages being paid than they are obviously not adults, IMO.
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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #276 on: October 07, 2015, 04:10:39 PM »
so 97% of 77 scientists, (75) from a pool of over 3400 originally asked, believe in MMGW.
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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #277 on: October 07, 2015, 04:12:43 PM »
So global warming is a good cover for politicians and other wealthy interested parties who are not managing outcomes very well anymore when it comes to things as simple as keeping work forces employed.


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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #278 on: October 07, 2015, 04:21:47 PM »
so 97% of 77 scientists, (75) from a pool of over 3400 originally asked, believe in MMGW.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveys_of_scientists%27_views_on_climate_change
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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #279 on: October 07, 2015, 04:42:39 PM »
Are you replying to yourself because you're the one who introduced the subject into the conversation?

No.

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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #280 on: October 07, 2015, 04:45:37 PM »
Take out a loan and afford college to afford to live  (bad idea; Debt for housing and food is lost time.)

 or get a job making $8/hr, (What job is this? handing out flyers? they better pay overtime because im going to work 60 hours a week handing out flyers.)

 spend 7 years to reach 30K (7 years? yeah they are called doctors.)

and that's about it for them. (but some day ill own my own flyer company.)

 This is a different socitey than you grew up in. The only strawman is what's left inside the kid after he gets taken advantage of for 8 years and still cannot afford to live decently. (8 years making 8$/hr? i bet he would be fired if hes is still hanging around after 8 years)

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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #281 on: October 07, 2015, 05:30:01 PM »


90% of retail jobs start at 7.50 to $8 an hour in America. You work there for 3 years and see a 75 cent raise max. Dont believe me? Ask around.

Doctors are taking out hge amounts in loans to become doctors. That is 7 years of med school. High school graduates with no college degrees take 7 years if they are lucky to even make 30K per year. According to the chart I've posted that # is declining. Ask someone who makes 35K per year, single, how they are doing. Probably not so shabby. If these kids don't have parent support, they now become nothing more than peasants. Stats and measurements have indicated that our middle class and lower class are being pushed down.

Some day I'll own my own flyer company is right.
I plan to be a business owner and I'll have a business that supports American workers and America. diddly this Chinease take over roadkill.

The time value of money has substantially increased over the last 20 years. Gas has been a huge factor that pays into people's pay checks. If we don't battle the time value of money, and simply keep wages low, it will have a grand effect on the society around us.
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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #282 on: October 07, 2015, 06:41:45 PM »
This is why people cry for growth and not more regulation.

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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #283 on: October 07, 2015, 06:43:11 PM »
90% of retail jobs start at 7.50 to $8 an hour in America. You work there for 3 years and see a 75 cent raise max. Dont believe me? Ask around.

Doctors are taking out hge amounts in loans to become doctors. That is 7 years of med school. High school graduates with no college degrees take 7 years if they are lucky to even make 30K per year. According to the chart I've posted that # is declining. Ask someone who makes 35K per year, single, how they are doing. Probably not so shabby. If these kids don't have parent support, they now become nothing more than peasants. Stats and measurements have indicated that our middle class and lower class are being pushed down.

Some day I'll own my own flyer company is right.
I plan to be a business owner and I'll have a business that supports American workers and America. diddly this Chinease take over roadkill.

The time value of money has substantially increased over the last 20 years. Gas has been a huge factor that pays into people's pay checks. If we don't battle the time value of money, and simply keep wages low, it will have a grand effect on the society around us.

Awesome, well there you have it folks, the solution to global warming, pay people better and forgive them their college debts along with lowering the price of gas.  Problem solved.
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Re: How or Why we will reverse global warming
« Reply #284 on: October 07, 2015, 07:17:54 PM »
i Know... that was prob violation some rules..
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