Stories from FL280...

[Vraciu]

Could you define "clara". Just an unfamiliar term to me.

Means the pilot cannot see the Ball or has lost sight of it. I think any way.

[Serenity]

Means the pilot cannot see the Ball or has lost sight of it. I think any way.

Could you define "clara". Just an unfamiliar term to me.

Yep. You can be "Clara Lineup" meaning due to glare, or some other factor, you can't see the centerline, you can be "clara ship" due to fog, but "clara" is "Clarification", meaning, you can't see a necessary visual reference to make a safe landing, and you're asking the LSO to guide you back onto course because you CAN'T do it yourself because you're missing the visual reference necessary. If you don't follow it up with what exactly you can't see, it means the ball is off the lens, so you need the LSO to guide you back down onto glide slope, and to give you warning before you have a flythrough down.

[Wolfala]

Did not qual.

3 good passes in a row (no bolters), caught the 3 wire on each. On the 4th pass I got a strong gust of wind that blew me way high. Paddles didn't hear my "clara" call, and so couldn't talk me back onto glide slope. I tried to catch it myself, but got too far back on the power, so when I came back up, it took a few seconds to spool. Caught the 2 wire, but the engine was "too quiet" for their liking, and it was called an "eased guns to land" cut pass.

Yeah, these days, reportedly about 50% DNQ first at-sea period.  I have no idea what historical trends are.  All my CNATRA contacts are TW6, NFO School House. Paddles is never, ever wrong. Even when Paddles is wrong, Paddles is never wrong.  It’s called P*I*C for a reason.  Sorry it happened, and you needs to learn from that pass.  There’s a whole lot in there  to mull over.

[Serenity]

Yeah, these days, reportedly about 50% DNQ first at-sea period.  I have no idea what historical trends are.  All my CNATRA contacts are TW6, NFO School House. Paddles is never, ever wrong. Even when Paddles is wrong, Paddles is never wrong.  It’s called P*I*C for a reason.  Sorry it happened, and you needs to learn from that pass.  There’s a whole lot in there  to mull over.

Oh, don't worry, I understand well that paddles is never wrong. I've gone over it about a million times, looking only at what, given the same circumstances, I could have done differently from my cockpit. I don't blame paddles at all, there are many things I would have done differently, not only on that pass, but for the day as a whole.

[NatCigg]

you live, you learn. your better today than yesterday.  keep at it.  a day on the job is worth a month in the classroom.

I always found it interesting how fate works.  there is a wild chance that your experience will make you better in the long run.  I know its a absurd thought but when it is all over you can tell us about it.

you got this.

 

[Serenity]

there is a wild chance that your experience will make you better in the long run.  I know its a absurd thought but when it is all over you can tell us about it.

You're not the first to posit this. My CO said the best ball-flyers he knew were the ones who didn't make their first trip to the boat, because they got extra attention BEFORE they developed bad habits. Hopefully I get the chance to go again and make use of the lessons learned!

[Vraciu]

You're not the first to posit this. My CO said the best ball-flyers he knew were the ones who didn't make their first trip to the boat, because they got extra attention BEFORE they developed bad habits. Hopefully I get the chance to go again and make use of the lessons learned!

When it comes to busting a ride or missing a qual...for 95% (or more) of people there are those that have and those that will. 

You'll get another bite at the apple.

[Devil 505]

You're not the first to posit this. My CO said the best ball-flyers he knew were the ones who didn't make their first trip to the boat, because they got extra attention BEFORE they developed bad habits. Hopefully I get the chance to go again and make use of the lessons learned!

That's the spirit. 


 

[NatCigg]

I don't know if it applets but..  for me there was a change of mindset that happened with experience.  At sometime a guy must go from trainer to professional.  You are a professional. All excuses are nothing more than excuses for your self.  With this understanding you have nothing to prove, only execute.  As was said there is a lot to extract.  I don't know if what I say applies.  A lot of kids can be confident, but maybe my experience can help.

[DaveBB]

Seems like a good place for the ol' Yerkes Dodson law.  There are probably few things harder than landing on a carrier.  To get optimal performance out of yourself, you have to keep your level of CNS arousal down.

[Arlo]

I became aroused just looking at the graph (it don't take much sometime).

[zxrex]

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I became aroused just looking at the graph (it don't take much sometime).

Arlo, that sounds like it could be a whole other thread.

[Maverick]

Just a blurb here from another website I frequent regarding veteran stories. There is supposed to be a small "strike" going on with naval instructor pilots at this time over the oxy issues in the goshawk. Serenity, have you heard anything on your side about it?


 http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=71257

[Serenity]

Just a blurb here from another website I frequent regarding veteran stories. There is supposed to be a small "strike" going on with naval instructor pilots at this time over the oxy issues in the goshawk. Serenity, have you heard anything on your side about it?


 http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=71257

I was standing desk when they refused to fly. Our flight schedule today is shut down as well, presumably because of this article. And having been at that meeting with NavAir, "heated" is an understatement.

[DaveBB]

It's all over the major news outlets.  Mainly due to Mike Pence's son being in training.  They said that it is a 70% refusal rate, though the Navy lowered it to 40% by reducing the flight schedule.