STRATS - why do you hit them?

[Lusche]

Actually, these are the correct answers to your specific question about Fuel Refinery:

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"Refinery = fuel tanks (basically no actual impact on gameplay though)" - disagree if fuel bunkers stay down longer; see above quotes (and that's a first for Lusche, maybe baby distracted - and that's allowed  )


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Oh, I made quite some errors before, so that would not be a first at all.... but this ain't one of them 

Neither I was distracted, nor did I ive any wrong information. In fact, I chose my words very carefully: "basically no actual impact on gameplay though".
And that's exactly what it means: Not that nothing happens - but the actual impact on gameplay of someone bombing the refinery is absolutely negigible.

Fuel almost never gets porked on fields (for good reasons), that's why your bombs are wasted on the refinery if you are only loocking to have an effect on your enemies. In that case, go bomb something else.

[SlipKnt]

In theory dropping the fuel strats then porking the correct fields would impact 163s and long range high altitude bombers.  It would be a chore to work that but it is possible. 

If I intend to work a map and take bases, I am going to hit the hell out of the strats to get gun times and city object times to rebuild increased.

In addition, with the resources, I'd also shut the base down and make it very difficult to defend.  Not in a horde, but with select bomber and fighter types.   

It is a good question.  The gamer that prefers to take bases will likely attack strats.  The gamer that wont pork will likely fly around looking for fights. 

 

[Wiley]

In theory dropping the fuel strats then porking the correct fields would impact 163s and long range high altitude bombers.  It would be a chore to work that but it is possible. 

Except isn't the 163 hard coded to 5 minutes no matter what the fuel state of the field is?  Pretty sure I remember reading that a while ago.  Don't think I've ever seen the 163 base porked to check.

Wiley.

[Lusche]

In theory dropping the fuel strats then porking the correct fields would impact 163s and long range high altitude bombers.  It would be a chore to work that but it is possible. 

Except isn't the 163 hard coded to 5 minutes no matter what the fuel state of the field is?  Pretty sure I remember reading that a while ago.  Don't think I've ever seen the 163 base porked to check.

The Me 163 fuel burn rate is hardcoded. Less fuel available still affects them... But I have seen my 163 base being fuel porked maybe 2-3 times in the 10 years I've been here.
And for the long range bombers... there's always another base to up from. If you are planning for a 2h+ sortie, field location becomes secondary.

[Skyguns MKII]

Simple, if benefits you and your nation and its fun 

[Wiley]

The Me 163 fuel burn rate is hardcoded

Right!  Arena setting doesn't affect it.  Was thinking it was the same thing but I see the difference now.

Wiley.

[Meatwad]

Used to be able to pork fuel at fields down to 25% long ago before it was forced to be changed

[Lusche]

Something I forgot to add: If you are hitting the strats "for points only", you have chosen the wrong target. Be it score or perks, there are much more valuable targets for that.

[cobia38]

Used to be able to pork fuel at fields down to 25% long ago before it was forced to be changed

really wish it was that way still

[waystin2]

I have found that the explosions and fire when hitting a strat with a B-25H is the reward. 

[mia389]

Sometimes I like to bomb strats just to take my bombers behind enemy lines. It fun for me.

[Flossy]

Because they are there.  Because I can.     

[Volron]

Because they are there.  Because I can.     

 

[Wizz]

I had a conversation today.  A player announced that he had hit the fuel strats.  I asked what did that achieve?

I was eventually met with some pretty spirited answers (that I should calm down as it was 6am...lol)  well, it was 8pm my time so I am not sure what relevance that answer had.

Sooo, I said I would take it to the BBS.  Thanks to ORICK for trying to explain in game but I still think I need to ask the question here.

I will be up front.  I think you strat buffs are nothing but point potatos.  You do it simply because it is an easy way to make points.  Especially in an arena that has 100 bases and 30 players

However, my personal view aside.  What is the effect of hitting the strats?  How is the enemy hampered and how does that help us?

Example in point.  Guy declares with pride that the enemy fuel strats are down.  So what?

• Are the enemy deprived of fuel?
• If yes, what is the impact of that deprivation?

In my experience, I have never suffered from lack of fuel on take off.  It is rare that I would take more than 50% fuel.

Despite the cranky (defensive) answers I got in game (it was 6am after all).....what is the 'real' gameplay impact of dropping the strats (I will open it up to all strats because IMO hitting fuel strats with 30 people in game is nothing but point grabbing)

See my thread LW 12 hour campaign....


1 B-17 strat run eventually led to owning over 30% of an enemy countries bases and that was just the last time that happened.

Look at strat runs like you would painting a wall. Whatever color you use it first needs a base coat. If you want to make a significant impact on the war effort whether for offense or defense the enemies strats must go! When no on wants to pork up B-17s and drop the ammo. instead of bomb and bailing drop to the deck and gun the rest down and die in the ACK. Then pork the hell out of a front and watch the whines commence.

Or.... drop city and AAA with lancs and stir up a fight so you dont have to bomb and bail. Then take an enemy base deep within the county and draw attention to that base opening up other areas for offensives. 

[Wizz]

See my thread LW 12 hour campaign....


1 B-17 strat run eventually led to owning over 30% of an enemy countries bases and that was just the last time that happened.

Look at strat runs like you would painting a wall. Whatever color you use it first needs a base coat. If you want to make a significant impact on the war effort whether for offense or defense the enemies strats must go! When no on wants to pork up B-17s and drop the ammo. instead of bomb and bailing drop to the deck and gun the rest down and die in the ACK. Then pork the hell out of a front and watch the whines commence.

Or.... drop city and AAA with lancs and stir up a fight so you dont have to bomb and bail. Then take an enemy base deep within the county and draw attention to that base opening up other areas for offensives. 

anything beyond this is nothing more than skilless entertainment. Who are we to judge how someone spends their money, time, and effort?