KI-67 Update?

[lyric1]

I can say with some certainty that the books showing the front gun only had a slew in the vertical of +&- of 25 deg is most likely wrong.





Taking another image of this white tailed KI-67 & cropping the nose cone down to the second image. I gave it to a squad mate who works with Cad Cam & asked what angle he found using the software.





His findings were -34 to -35 degrees.



One thing to keep in mind with the above image is that we don't know if that gun in the photo is at it's total slew downwards. It could possibly go downwards even more. If the turret can rotate 360 degrees with these findings it will also give us +34 to +35 degrees in the vertical.

Changing tact a little also found an image with a KI-67 with no nose gun in the cradle & you can see fairly well the wishbone fixture as I called it. After seeing this more complete view it's more like an X shaped bracket than a Y shaped one.



Colour coded it red like the other images of it.



It seems to be in a different location than those other images with the guns installed. That maybe why it is set so far back  not attached to the gun yet?

[lyric1]

Last image was gone?

[lyric1]

Found a photo of a shot down KI-67 played with some Photobucket settings to get some light inside of the aircraft.
Decent view of the cradle the gun was clamped into.

[lyric1]

Some photos of the types of bomb sights used on the KI-67.

[lyric1]

Few more bombsite images.





A similar type it was not used on the KI-67 has a number of the same features though.

[49Dallas]

Great thread

Awesome thread! I wish the Ki67 would get an update, It's one of my favorite bombers and it needs an update.

The KI67 had a lot of great variants. I wish HTC would add them like we have the different variants of the b25. My favorite being the Ki-67-Ib: Late production model. Reinforced the tail gun turret (2 × 20 mm), I really like the Ki-109 too.

What are your sources? It's pretty hard to find stuff about the ki-67. On the wiki it stays the Indonesian air force had ki67s after the war but it doesn't have a citation and a quick google search didn't yield results. I wonder if there are any surviving planes that could be examined, In other threads there are modern pictures of aircraft when issues like this come up.

[Volron]

She's going to look SO GOOD once they get around to updating her.   I just hope they find a way to get the nose cones to animate/work for better defensive coverage.

EDIT: Tail as well.  Tail cone moved around too.

[lyric1]

Awesome thread! I wish the Ki67 would get an update, It's one of my favorite bombers and it needs an update.

The KI67 had a lot of great variants. I wish HTC would add them like we have the different variants of the b25. My favorite being the Ki-67-Ib: Late production model. Reinforced the tail gun turret (2 × 20 mm), I really like the Ki-109 too.

What are your sources? It's pretty hard to find stuff about the ki-67. On the wiki it stays the Indonesian air force had ki67s after the war but it doesn't have a citation and a quick google search didn't yield results. I wonder if there are any surviving planes that could be examined, In other threads there are modern pictures of aircraft when issues like this come up.

KI-109 Was only at prototype levels never seen combat. No KI-67's survive today all have been scrapped. Most of the sources are Japanese books. I have just about all of them printed that I am aware of. I found out recently that Mitsubishi has a small museum of sorts in Japan & have a number of blue prints on display I have wrote them to see what if anything I can do to get copies.

[BuckShot]

Have you tried contacting a former Japanese 67 gunner?

I don't know how you would, but I'm sure they could fill in the blanks.

[lyric1]

Have you tried contacting a former Japanese 67 gunner?

I don't know how you would, but I'm sure they could fill in the blanks.

No would not know where to begin with that.
You have to remember a number of these were used in Kamikaze raids & most of the crews would be in the 90's now that survived the war. 

[lyric1]

Have you tried contacting a former Japanese 67 gunner?

I don't know how you would, but I'm sure they could fill in the blanks.

Found an interview with a crewman of a KI-67 suicide squadron from what I can make out his aircraft was one of the escort KI-67's.

Google translator is not that good on this but you can get the jest of it.

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://kousei.s40.xrea.com/xoops/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php%3Fviewmode%3Dflat%26topic_id%3D950%26forum%3D13&usg=ALkJrhgbaKcZipyg1T2WljBdFjtP5QSarQ

Found a site that has some more info on the attacks.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fevnara.blog.fc2.com%2Fblog-date-20151121.html&edit-text=&act=url

[lyric1]

KI-67 Gyroscope.

[lyric1]

Wheels off of a Ki-67 video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClcZUfaenxg

Tail wheel From the KI-67 video above & still shots below.

[bustr]

Lyric,

If you run across anything in your travels, photo, diagram, or translated technical description for IJN and IJA fixed gunsight reticles. I'll be happy to update anything I've created for AHIII with better info.

thank you...

[lyric1]

Lyric,

If you run across anything in your travels, photo, diagram, or translated technical description for IJN and IJA fixed gunsight reticles. I'll be happy to update anything I've created for AHIII with better info.

thank you...

Will do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EayasHQYEGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFF-ptiS0uo

Kind of funny this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmsSHkYnjU0

http://home.f04.itscom.net/nyankiti/ki43-sub4-air%20gunnery.htm