As a serial vulchee I take offense at being called stooopid for not lifting from another base. If I cared that I die ten times to every one getting in the air than that would be a problem. If there is anything in the complaint department from me it would be disappointment in vulchers vulching when A.) they aren't trying to take a field B.) low population C.) 4 fighters to one. The late night game is kind of kookie as it is. It casts into sharper relief the differing ambitions of players so you get stooopid matchups of knuckleheads who just want to fight, (would be happier if everyone had 2 .20 cals,) and people who want the illusion of accomplishing something, especially the camaraderie of takening a base with some other fellows.