49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid

[Vudak]

Hey I'm Old School...............show me.....Tell me... Vudak show me how well you run a mission........

If you want to learn how to run a mission you'd be better served listening to some of the guys who have commanded the scenarios in the past. They might even have access to the climbout times and distance for fighters under different engine settings and fuel loads.

Heck you could see for yourself today, I believe...

Or you could sit here and continue to whine. Your call!

[czpilot]

Salute to 49th for organizing this mission! This makes me even to resubscribe to join this mission (escort) at very early morning my time
Well, flying off map is not maybe the best thing but on the other side - real B29 missions climbed to their operational alt so far from battlefield that anyway nobody could attack them during this climbing or take off.
Moreover, flying off map did not prevent any attackers from taking high alt and wait for bombers to fly back on map. So I dont see any real point to complaint about it. Only laments that it might be easier to vulch B29s on take off or climbing 

(Flying as czpetr1 now)

[Dundee]

If you want to learn how to run a mission you'd be better served listening to some of the guys who have commanded the scenarios in the past. They might even have access to the climbout times and distance for fighters under different engine settings and fuel loads.

Heck you could see for yourself today, I believe...

Or you could sit here and continue to whine. Your call!

I'm not whining.........I'm just saying show me how you would do it better.........show us

[Mongoose]

  Despite all the complaints about flying off map, this was a lot of fun.  Live and learn, and refine the process next time.  I was too late to even see the B-29's, but I did get to intercept a few bandits who were trying to climb up to intercept them. 

  I look forward to more of these.  Instead of complaining about some of the shortfalls, learn from it and correct next time.

    to all who were involved.

[Mongoose]

   One more note.  This sort of event definitely makes you learn how to manage fuel.

[elc7367b]

Hey I'm Old School...............show me.....Tell me... Vudak show me how well you run a mission........

No need to get butt hurt over criticism. You all posted this in an open forum and to not expect criticism is pretty naive.

[BuckShot]

Hey I'm Old School...............show me.....Tell me... Vudak show me how well you run a mission........

Exploiting a bug doesn't mean you can run a mission well.

You obviously promoted it well. Nice work.

Do it next time without flying off map and it will be a noteworthy accomplishment.

That last run was no different than a 30k air spawn.

[guncrasher]

I'm not whining.........I'm just saying show me how you would do it better.........show us

dundee he already did.  you guys should have had fighters intercepting us about 30 to 40 minutes before you took off.  we took off a full hour before you did.  we climbed to 30k.  we knew which base you were taking off from, and no, it wasnt due to spies.  on that map it was obvious you had to use a rear base and we do have guys who love to bomb so picking the base was easy.

so we climbed to 30k and split into 2 groups.  headed to that particular base.  like I said we flew over 3 cv groups and countless rook bases with full dar.  not sure how you guys were surprised we hit you when you were around 10k.  not like we flew noe. I never encountered any of your fighter cover till I made my first pass pass.  it was funny as I forgot I was at 30k and dove straight down, almost flew right by you guys on the way to the ground.  was able to control and got 49zero on my first pass.  made a circle and got his other b29 as finally one of the 2 fighters I saw earlier got me.  there was about 7 or 8 b29's in that group none of them fired at me.

like I said, it would have been different if you guys had sent your cover to intercept us 3 or 4 sectors away.


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[Dundee]

If you want to learn how to run a mission you'd be better served listening to some of the guys who have commanded the scenarios in the past. They might even have access to the climbout times and distance for fighters under different engine settings and fuel loads.

Heck you could see for yourself today, I believe...

Or you could sit here and continue to whine. Your call!

I'm still waiting for your mission..........Please while I'm young

[HawkerMKII]

I'm still waiting for your mission..........Please while I'm young

Post misssion...b17's 75% fuel....500lbs bombs...call out for joiners on country. Ask for escorts....joiners join....escorts up ahead of mission...20 sets of b17's lift.....climb up to 20k head on to 1 or 2 bases......fight your way into the target, lose some a/c (or all)...bomb target (maybe)...fight your way home, lose more a/c...hopefully land....if not HAVE FUN. This was the way ThundrEggs missions went. The 91st ran countless mission from 15k to 20k, not 30k. I am sure many people remember the 91st missions and hopefully had fun.

[Dundee]

Thanks Hawker.......... but I'm wanting to join Vudak mission I want to learn how to run it the right way.

[guncrasher]

Thanks Hawker.......... but I'm wanting to join Vudak mission I want to learn how to run it the right way.

he did.


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[Vudak]

Thanks Hawker.......... but I'm wanting to join Vudak mission I want to learn how to run it the right way.

If Dallas wants, I'll work with the 49th for the February 26 mission and help them plan the fighter sweeps. 

I offer this because I have already given credit to the 49th in this thread for planning something fun and trying to learn, and I don't think it's fair to turn my back on all of them just because one idiot can't resist going after one of the few people being conciliatory to this group in this thread

[rpm]

This was the way ThundrEggs missions went. The 91st ran countless mission from 15k to 20k, not 30k. I am sure many people remember the 91st missions and hopefully had fun.

Please don't attempt to associate us with the 49ers. kthnksbye

[icepac]

How many times in the real war did the enemy fly one way missions deep into enemy territory to vulch upping b29s?