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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #165 on: January 31, 2016, 01:05:59 AM »
   Merlin, this was a good thing you guys did, and don't let anyone tell you different!

   You got a lot of people involved.  There was a lot of action, and it was fun. 

   Regarding point #8, and your missions causing people to quit Aces High.  If this sort of mission will cause someone to quit, then there is nothing you can do to keep that person playing anyway.  This kind of action is more likely to gain players than lose them. 

   As for any mistakes that were made, live and learn.  Let's all have a good laugh over it, and make adjustments next time.

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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #166 on: January 31, 2016, 01:43:51 AM »
   2.  I did "plan" on going off map
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Not often you get people that admit to chea... umm, exploiting a flaw in the game to their advantage. But if that's what it takes for you to "win", well it just about says it all about you and your squad. Any other bugs you've found and plan to exploit?
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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #167 on: January 31, 2016, 04:31:16 AM »
The 49th gave you guys exactly what you wanted and some are still complaining? I love people! :rock


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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #168 on: January 31, 2016, 05:08:10 AM »
Hey rpm, ummm Merlin also said this..
   4. " I had absolutely no clue that bullets did not work off map.  I have been playing long enough to know that, I know, but it
       has honestly never come up, because if I am off map it is because I am afk.  As soon as I found out I turned the group
       around.  The enemy was stalking us anyway and we could not kill them, turning seemed prudent" end quote.........the bug can only help you only if your bullets work and the enemy's don't Sooooooo how did Merlin exploit this bug ? Just asking..you see we all were firing at the jug wondering wth?? If I wanted to exploit that bug and assuming I knew about it I would stay off map until fighter escort arrived and then drag him back on map for the kill..but that didn't happen..we fired we found out we got back on map he followed b29s Tore him to shreds on his first pass back on map..the end P.S.someone also noted an apparent loss of fuel when you cross the map line approx 1 hr ..must check this out for meself..do we get it back when we come back on map or is some sort of toll we pay? Hmm
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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #169 on: January 31, 2016, 05:35:56 AM »
For the record I don't think it's a " bug" at all..  I think it was put there on purpose by HTC as part of some evil Conspiracy to keep the fighting on the map where it belongs..round 1 goes to Texas :devil :joystick:
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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #170 on: January 31, 2016, 08:19:47 AM »

This mission was possible on any map.

Our gunnery was just fine thank you very much.

If you're going to complain about the mission why don't you try making one? If you want to see more please provide constructive criticism and don't wine about it.

The 49ThFg is not a new squad.

Do not belittle us.

Well first off, no, it's not smart to run this "mission" on any map.

Secondly, if your gunnery "was just fine" I'm pretty sure more of your bombers would have made it home or further in the mission, or at least not have had to fly of the map. You were in the most deadliest bombers in the game. 

Thirdly, your squad has been in the game maybe 2 -3 years, most of you guys are still pretty much "new". I can tell by the fact that you still go for HQ even though it's pretty much the least strategic target on the map, and by the fact that most of y'all (not all) have level 2 out 10 ACM skills because most of y'all do not have much air combat experience in AH. Most of you are still learning the fine points of the game and the flight model. You've flown FSO for like maybe a year, compared to many of the people on these boards who have flown it for 7-15 years. Think about it. 

That's why your mission got jumped.

That's why you flew off the map.

That's why most of you or all your bombers didn't make it home.

I wasn't "complaning" infact I was trying to be nice and provide some feedback from my long standing experience  as to why your mission got vulched. You could have easily spotted it and rolled your mission from the other side of your territory thus giving your bombers a longer chance to get alt and outsmart the incoming planes who were already in route to vulch.

I was actually honoring your "attempt" as something fun for the game, but your remark ticked me off and reaks of "I know everything about missions so don't say chit". So I could care less about your squads success now,  and will continue to enjoy shooting most of you down when ever I get the opportunity. All we have done is provide some experienced productive feedback about your mission and instead of using it to better your squad, you will still use the same noobish tactics and thus continue to be mediocre at the game.
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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #171 on: January 31, 2016, 11:14:51 AM »
icepack.  there were none.


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Actually.....I killed the first two to show up.

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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #172 on: January 31, 2016, 12:45:23 PM »
Actually.....I killed the first two to show up.

so did i.  those b29s were easy.  to be honest, i never expected to see the 29s.  i kind of thought i was gonna use up all my ammo with the fighters

made 3 sorties fighter cover was not there.


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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #173 on: January 31, 2016, 01:46:30 PM »
Well first off, no, it's not smart to run this "mission" on any map.

Secondly, if your gunnery "was just fine" I'm pretty sure more of your bombers would have made it home or further in the mission, or at least not have had to fly of the map. You were in the most deadliest bombers in the game. 

Thirdly, your squad has been in the game maybe 2 -3 years, most of you guys are still pretty much "new". I can tell by the fact that you still go for HQ even though it's pretty much the least strategic target on the map, and by the fact that most of y'all (not all) have level 2 out 10 ACM skills because most of y'all do not have much air combat experience in AH. Most of you are still learning the fine points of the game and the flight model. You've flown FSO for like maybe a year, compared to many of the people on these boards who have flown it for 7-15 years. Think about it. 

That's why your mission got jumped.

That's why you flew off the map.

That's why most of you or all your bombers didn't make it home.

I wasn't "complaning" infact I was trying to be nice and provide some feedback from my long standing experience  as to why your mission got vulched. You could have easily spotted it and rolled your mission from the other side of your territory thus giving your bombers a longer chance to get alt and outsmart the incoming planes who were already in route to vulch.

I was actually honoring your "attempt" as something fun for the game, but your remark ticked me off and reaks of "I know everything about missions so don't say chit". So I could care less about your squads success now,  and will continue to enjoy shooting most of you down when ever I get the opportunity. All we have done is provide some experienced productive feedback about your mission and instead of using it to better your squad, you will still use the same noobish tactics and thus continue to be mediocre at the game.


We've been a squad for about eight years. I've been in the squad for about four. I could dig up old emails but you're not worth the time.


Our gunnery was just fine. We killed countless numbers of 152's, jugs, and 163's. The B-29 does have one of the best defensive gun packages in the game, But it means nothing when you're overwhelmed. You barley put a dent in us before we got over your strats and you upped at least 23 163's. I shot down five 163's and one 152. Our gunnery was just fine thank you very much.

Our ACM as a group is just fine. Sure we have some people who aren't aces but we do have some very good fighter pilots. Our squad isn't focused on ACM or fighters so you really can't talk crap. Our squad is about having fun and doing whatever we like.

The fact that you're crying about the HQ means that it is indeed a strategic target.

We've been flying FSO for a long time, usually with about 15 people. 8/8/2008 we had 9 people in FSO. Try again smart guy.


We got jumped because we made our mission public for a month before we launched it.

We flew off the map, as planned from the start.

Had had a few bombers make it home, Even less landed due to vulching on final. This was because there were at least 23 163's that upped to kill us. You barley touched us before we got within 163 range.


We know exactly what we're doing. In fact we knew there would be a horde of 163's, so we took out the fuel at the 163 base before our main mission got there. The fuel was resupplied before we got there too.


You complain about our mission, But you don't provide constructive criticism. You bash the 49ThFg, but you know nothing about it. I can't decide if you're a troll or an idiot.

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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #174 on: January 31, 2016, 02:39:33 PM »
Constructive criticism: next time don't plan a mission on which success relies upon a bug exploit, and you won't catch flak about it.

Maybe you could have the mission take off from different fields in flights of five or less, and then rendezvous. Make it complex. Take off from several fields, form two or more flights, and then all meet up at altitude. There ya go. The offmap crap was the ONLY bitter aspect of that bitter sweet mission.
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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #175 on: January 31, 2016, 02:56:41 PM »
Again..it's probably not a bug it's a feature and I'm assuming you mean taking advantage of that feature by saying exploit so I'm just curious in what way did they take advantage of that feature? How did it help them? Nobody can kill nobody off map unless you make them auger at 20k (we were still climbing on first encounter) or run them out of fuel neither of which happened as we found out about the feature we immediately turned back on map....maybe I'm missing something someone please enlighten me
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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #176 on: January 31, 2016, 02:59:39 PM »

We've been a squad for about eight years. I've been in the squad for about four. I could dig up old emails but you're not worth the time.


Our gunnery was just fine. We killed countless numbers of 152's, jugs, and 163's. The B-29 does have one of the best defensive gun packages in the game, But it means nothing when you're overwhelmed. You barley put a dent in us before we got over your strats and you upped at least 23 163's. I shot down five 163's and one 152. Our gunnery was just fine thank you very much.

Our ACM as a group is just fine. Sure we have some people who aren't aces but we do have some very good fighter pilots. Our squad isn't focused on ACM or fighters so you really can't talk crap. Our squad is about having fun and doing whatever we like.

The fact that you're crying about the HQ means that it is indeed a strategic target.

We've been flying FSO for a long time, usually with about 15 people. 8/8/2008 we had 9 people in FSO. Try again smart guy.


We got jumped because we made our mission public for a month before we launched it.

We flew off the map, as planned from the start.

Had had a few bombers make it home, Even less landed due to vulching on final. This was because there were at least 23 163's that upped to kill us. You barley touched us before we got within 163 range.


We know exactly what we're doing. In fact we knew there would be a horde of 163's, so we took out the fuel at the 163 base before our main mission got there. The fuel was resupplied before we got there too.


You complain about our mission, But you don't provide constructive criticism. You bash the 49ThFg, but you know nothing about it. I can't decide if you're a troll or an idiot.

Be carefull of what you say.

Bf 109K-4        2    10.000
Fw 190D-9    1   5.000
Me 163B        5    25.000
P-47M        3    15.000
P-47N        1    5.000
T-34/76        1    5.000
Ta 152H        6    30.000
Wirbelwind    1    5.000

This is total kills of your squad while in a B29, hardly "countless"

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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #177 on: January 31, 2016, 03:04:48 PM »
What about non 49ers that flew 29s on that mission? Because  I wasn't the only one
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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #178 on: January 31, 2016, 03:16:48 PM »
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Re: 49th Fighter Group Homecoming Mega B-29 Raid
« Reply #179 on: January 31, 2016, 03:27:31 PM »
Constructive criticism: next time don't plan a mission on which success relies upon a bug exploit, and you won't catch flak about it.

Maybe you could have the mission take off from different fields in flights of five or less, and then rendezvous. Make it complex. Take off from several fields, form two or more flights, and then all meet up at altitude. There ya go. The offmap crap was the ONLY bitter aspect of that bitter sweet mission.

It took about 15 minutes for all flights to take off. We had three flights.


Be carefull of what you say.

Bf 109K-4        2    10.000
Fw 190D-9    1   5.000
Me 163B        5    25.000
P-47M        3    15.000
P-47N        1    5.000
T-34/76        1    5.000
Ta 152H        6    30.000
Wirbelwind    1    5.000

This is total kills of your squad while in a B29, hardly "countless"

That's cute. How many were in our mission? Our mission was filled with a lot of other Rooks, knights, and even bishops.

Where are you getting these stats from?
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