I have had my fair share of time getting murdalized by J0ker and the boys when I flew Rook and Knight (and getting kills in here and there), and it can be frustrating fighting them, for sure. But now as a Bish, I can say that they are a good bunch to play alongside with. In a fight over a base, they communicate non-stop with everyone else, and are good team mates. I think they get a bit of a bad rap. As for doing NOE when it's 77 v 64 v 33, NOE is fun. This is a game, after all. They're playing the game in a way that is fun for them. Would it suck to be on the other side? Probably, if all you're after is a furball. But we all play the game the way that's most fun for ourselves. If the day ever comes when I'm forced to stay online and play the game the way someone else wants me to, that person better be prepared to pay my subscription.