The best upgrade I ever did!

[Skuzzy]

     Skuzzy, let us not forget the original topic on this thread. Latrobe fixed his computer by upgrading to Windows 10. Latrobe's not a developer, nor is he an IT expert, but instead uses his computer for gaming and his own personal enjoyment. Windows 10 has worked perfectly for him because he does not fear change or hold any conspiracy theories about windows probing his computer. You and Challenge have managed to take this thread and twist it into the "bellyache about Windows" and the "I hate Windows" thread rather than complementing or congratulating Latrobe on his now working computer.
     On that note, I would like to redirect this thread by saying, "Awesome that Windows 10 worked for you Latrobe!"

Sure it fixed a problem, but then again, re-installing Windows 7 would have accomplished the same thing.  My caution is whatever caused the original corruption may still be present and he is only delaying the same problem again. 

Data corruption is never a good thing.  It happens for a reason and without knowing why it happened, it does not matter what version of the operating system is installed, it could happen again.

FYI: There is no "bellyaching".  There is a concern, on my part, he has masked the real problem which could bite him in the tush again.  It does not have anything to do with "fear" or "change" or "conspiracy".  You keep wanting to make it about that, but that is not what is being discussed here.

Find me saying, "I hate Windows" anywhere.  You won't, so I would appreciate it if you stopped trying claim I said something I did not.  Again, you are trying to make this emotional.  There is nothing emotional in anything I have said.  Care to take what I have actually said and discuss it?

I have to know about the bugs in any of the operating systems.  I spend a lot of time reading Microsoft's bug reports so I know how to work around things for the game.  Like this: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,377540.0.html

So I am always listening to problems players have with their computers and what they do to fix them.  In this instance, the cause of the problem has been ignored.  Yes, the computer is fixed, but the problem may still be there.

[Chalenge]

And that event is exactly what I think everyone will experience at one point or another. Windows 10 represents a technology company that is attempting to shoehorn every Windows user into one operating system. The problem is that they do not allow anyone to refuse updates, or at least that is what they try. To stop an update you first have to be aware of upcoming issues that the update creates and then how to avoid the update. So, Microsoft has just become a big problem to their own users.

Latrobe had a problem with Windows 7. It might have been updates, misconfigured hardware, or simply poor user habits. The updates will continue to be a problem (as already stated). If the hardware was misconfigured then nothing has changed there either. And Latrobe has already decided that he is happy with the change, so he is unlikely to change his own habits.

Therefore, nothing has been fixed and all that has happened is a change in lipstick shade.

[Latrobe]

Therefore, nothing has been fixed and all that has happened is a change in lipstick shade.

I don't know, I've been using my PC with Win10 for a while now and everything seems to be fixed. 

[Skuzzy]

I don't know, I've been using my PC with Win10 for a while now and everything seems to be fixed. 

The manifested problem is fixed.  What caused the problem is at issue.  If that is not corrected, it will happen again.  You would have corrected the problem by re-installing Windows 7.  The cause of the original issue is not the operating system, it is something else and that is what could creep back in and cause it again unless you figure out what caused it before.

The point is, Windows 10 did not fix the problem.  It masked the problem, just like re-installing Windows 7 would have done.  Who knows what caused the original problem.  I am hopeful it will not manifest again.

[RagingPineapple]

You would have corrected the problem by re-installing Windows 7.

It masked the problem, just like re-installing Windows 7 would have done

[Skuzzy]

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Really?  Ok, I will explain it in more detail.

You would have corrected the problem by re-installing Windows 7.

The original post suggests the problem was cured by installing Windows 10.  It would have also been corrected by re-installing Windows 7.  The problem was never really fixed.

It masked the problem, just like re-installing Windows 7 would have done

Simply re-installing the operating system (any OS), masked the problem which caused the data to be corrupt to begin with.

All the re-install did was correct the corrupted data, it may not have corrected the reason the data got corrupted.  Then again, it might have corrected it.  We will never know for sure.  The only thing we know for sure is, any operating system re-install would have corrected the corrupted data.

Does that make it clearer for you?

[Masherbrum]

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Why hide behind a shades account?   

[darkzking]

CUZ OF SPIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bizman]

Maybe a real life exampe clarifies the issue:

As Skuzzy said, we don't know what caused the problems in the first hand. One possible culprit can be a failing hard disk, causing corrupted files in a certain sector. A reinstall usually does some error checking and bypasses bad sectors so both the issue and the cause get fixed. However, there's many ways hard disk can fail. If it's just one weak spot, bypassing it usually is enough. But if the disk surface has been physically damaged by a hit of the read/write head, there may be a loose chip grinding the disk randomly.

[Chalenge]

Maybe. I have thought for a long time that it was a 'bad idea' to encourage users to practice cable management to the extreme. I don't have a problem with maximizing airflow, but the cable management idea usually gets glossed over with the concept without direct instructions. I have seen issues where the cables take tight corners, which with the tiny SATA cables and IDE cables is murder on the internal traces. Over time this can cause shielding to break down, if there even is shielding, or crosstalk because of the close proximity to the various types of cabling, or worse case scenario 'twisty-type' cable ties with all of their problems.

As we know, internal audio cards sometimes pickup spurious signals from the internal cables and create audible noise, which is why I started talking about USB DACs. Through all of this if someone has been stubbornly ignoring the signs and audio clues have been present and ignored, then the second stage of crosstalk (and failing PSUs that has been mentioned previously) then begins to create data corruption.

So, at this point it would be pointless to check for system corruption, but checking for hard drive problems would be a good idea. Replacing the cabling if any of the cabling issues are possible, and finally there is the PSU to look at.

[Flametux]

I don't know about you guys, but installing Windows 10 actually drastically increased my internet speed. Thanks to the removal of Internet Explorer and better optimization of CAT5e Internet protocols. Also, I spread out the cables in my case a little bit to prevent crosstalk (not that it's needed, since Windows 10 has built-in error correction). I posted my reseults and new computer setup below.

[Mar]

 

[Estes]

Heh pretty sure cable management wouldn't affect net speeds Also not sure if troll or if you forgot you were mid-wank. 

[Chalenge]

Yeah, pretty much a console user that had filled up on spyware would certainly see a speedup by reinstalling, but one OS to another? Not likely.

[Dragon Tamer]