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Offline GScholz

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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #555 on: July 06, 2016, 03:18:00 PM »
Btw. the DOT&E is not "the Pentagon" either. The director is an assistant to the Secretary of Defense on weapons testing matters.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #556 on: July 06, 2016, 03:19:33 PM »
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #557 on: July 06, 2016, 03:20:28 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on July 06, 2016, 03:14:21 PM
The DoD say that the DOT&E report is factually accurate, but they disagree with the DOT&E's conclusions based on those facts.

No, they didn't even do that, they just said that they are working hard to fix the issues.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #558 on: July 06, 2016, 03:21:36 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #559 on: July 06, 2016, 03:29:06 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on July 06, 2016, 03:14:21 PM
The DoD say that the DOT&E report is factually accurate, but they disagree with the DOT&E's conclusions based on those facts.

No.  They say, "We are committed to fixing the problems cited."

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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #560 on: July 06, 2016, 03:31:05 PM »
Quote from: Zimme83 on July 06, 2016, 03:20:28 PM
No, they didn't even do that, they just said that they are working hard to fix the issues.

Exactly!
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #561 on: July 06, 2016, 03:31:43 PM »
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #562 on: July 06, 2016, 03:32:41 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on July 06, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
Btw. the DOT&E is not "the Pentagon" either. The director is an assistant to the Secretary of Defense on weapons testing matters.

And works in the Pentagon. 

Pierre Sprey said as much.   He should know.

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DOT&E
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #563 on: July 06, 2016, 03:49:45 PM »
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #564 on: July 06, 2016, 03:56:02 PM »
Quote from: FLOOB on July 06, 2016, 03:49:45 PM
Yeah but what about this?

https://warisboring.com/test-pilot-admits-the-f-35-can-t-dogfight-cdb9d11a875#.e4zhfwz3r

He's not Norwegian so he doesn't count.   :rofl   (JUST KIDDING.)

Don't forget, this was against a Block 40 F-16D two-seater with drop tanks still on.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #565 on: July 06, 2016, 06:48:37 PM »
The F-35 will probably be analogous to the Bradley Fighting Vehicle.  When they get all the kinks worked out, it will operate to a satisfactory condition in a limited envelope.  But like the Bradley, when the real war starts, it will be pulled out of combat due to excessive losses.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #566 on: July 06, 2016, 06:55:10 PM »
The F35 will be awesome by Version E  :police:
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #567 on: July 07, 2016, 02:49:55 AM »
Quote from: LCADolby on July 06, 2016, 06:55:10 PM
The F35 will be awesome by Version E  :police:

In 2047.  :D
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #568 on: July 07, 2016, 02:52:07 AM »
Quote from: DaveBB on July 06, 2016, 06:48:37 PM
The F-35 will probably be analogous to the Bradley Fighting Vehicle.  When they get all the kinks worked out, it will operate to a satisfactory condition in a limited envelope.  But like the Bradley, when the real war starts, it will be pulled out of combat due to excessive losses.

Sounds about right.
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Re: Dogfight : F35 vs F16
« Reply #569 on: July 07, 2016, 05:08:47 AM »
You can't make this stuff up.

And who says praise for a flawed weapon system can't be bought?

http://ericpalmerblog.blogspot.com.ng/2016/06/kim-beazley-joins-lockheed-martin.html
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