OPERA

[Meatwad]

Take away all the ads on the internet and shove it all on facebook. That way all the people that sit on their butts and goof off on it all day can pay for the internets (instead of everyone paying them to sit on their rears and play on the phone all day)

[GScholz]

Can your parents/grandparents tell a fake Windows warning from a real one? If not, are they stupid and ignorant? If they are, whose responsibility is it to help them?

My father who's pushing 70 used to teach computer classes for elderly people for that exact purpose. He's more than fine on his own on the net. Mom's dead.

[Bizman]

My father who's pushing 70 used to teach computer classes for elderly people for that exact purpose. He's more than fine on his own on the net. Mom's dead.

Pushing 70... that sounds pretty young. I'm somehow starting to feel "elderly"...

My two oldest customers have died at the age of 95 and I still have a lot of those over 80. That means they didn't necessarily get familiar with PC's at work either. As for computer courses for elderly I've heard that they mainly concentrate on how to start the PC and how to shut it down, how to open the Internet browser and use Google. That alone contains too many strange words to comprehend. "Internet" can mean both the browser and the PC, "browser" is something they've never heard of. Note that their compulsory education took place during the war in less than optimal conditions, sometimes even in a shortened schedule. After the war they were fully educated to reconstruct the country at assembly lines. Not stupid nor ignorant.

[FLOOB]

Can your sort post this geek stuff in the software section please?

For real.

[Shuffler]

All for nothing. I just see ads for things I already bought. I never click an ad and never will.

[Skuzzy]

All for nothing. I just see ads for things I already bought. I never click an ad and never will.

I have never clicked on an ad either.  They are like white noise now and I never really notice them anymore.

[Bizman]

I have never clicked on an ad either.  They are like white noise now and I never really notice them anymore.

Like white noise? Never really notice them? Oh well... Just today the customer's computer totally froze for a couple of minutes when I opened a tabloid in Chrome. Note that our ads are family friendly unlike in some other countries.

I must admit that a) it was a Vista laptop, b) I had the Update Readiness Tool running in the background and c) there has been issues with the Internet today. Did I already mention Vista?

[Skuzzy]

Could be I do not visit a lot of sites which have a lot of ads on them.  I am not much for sitting at a computer and browsing the Internet.

[bustr]

The Chinese army through shell companies a few years back started buying American companies that produced and distributed those annoying side bar adds that you tried to avoid hovering your mouse over or clicking on them. You can never tell if those adds are really about selling you something or gaining info about your habits. Or something as simple as doing research on RAM for a laptop and ending up with the (political\current events) web sites I read at greeting me with great deals on laptop memory in the side bars. Some one has got to pay for the free access to web sites.

[MADe]

The Chinese army through shell companies a few years back started buying American companies that produced and distributed those annoying side bar adds that you tried to avoid hovering your mouse over or clicking on them. You can never tell if those adds are really about selling you something or gaining info about your habits. Or something as simple as doing research on RAM for a laptop and ending up with the (political\current events) web sites I read at greeting me with great deals on laptop memory in the side bars. Some one has got to pay for the free access to web sites.

I have heard of this. You'll notice all pc hardware is manufactured in China as well......................... .......

I started using OPERA today. IE 11 keeps crashing all the time now, getting phased out so I guess I will phase something in. Will see if OPERA crashes less.

As far as ad free internet, never happen, they make more money, shoving pay advertising down our throats, than if we paid for the services outright. Peeps would never be able to afford an internet where every step is purchased. Clearly a balance needs to be struck and adhered too. Software that gives users options is the only real option now a days.

[bustr]

Hard lesson I've learned about IE11, keep adobe flash up to date as fast as they push a new update out. If you notice IE running slow or acting strange, and you keep your cache and history cleared out, check to see if adobe just released a new update for flash. I've had pages at sites I visit go from a crawl to light speed by updating flash. Then over the next month crawl again and suddenly a new update is available at adobe.

If you watch a lot of content at hulu or other sites like it on your PC. And you start getting timeouts that your internet connection cannot be the source of. See if there is a new flash update.

Krapola, krapelleii, krapula........

[-aper-]

I have heard of this. You'll notice all pc hardware is manufactured in China as well......................... .......

I started using OPERA today. IE 11 keeps crashing all the time now, getting phased out so I guess I will phase something in. Will see if OPERA crashes less.

As far as ad free internet, never happen, they make more money, shoving pay advertising down our throats, than if we paid for the services outright. Peeps would never be able to afford an internet where every step is purchased. Clearly a balance needs to be struck and adhered too. Software that gives users options is the only real option now a days.

Opera 12 made on Presto engine was a very nice browser with lots of unique features. Unfortunately developers dropped Presto engine and moved Opera to Chromium engine and did not bother to implement features of Opera 12 into new versions of Opera claiming it would be very hard to do.
So now it is just CHROPERA.

The good news that some people/developers who missed Opera 12 decided to make a new browser with most of Opera 12 best features and now you can enjoy VIVALDI browser.

Though it is in beta, it is really nice already and going to be even better.

https://vivaldi.com

[GScholz]

Pushing 70... that sounds pretty young. I'm somehow starting to feel "elderly"...

Sorry

As for computer courses for elderly I've heard that they mainly concentrate on how to start the PC and how to shut it down, how to open the Internet browser and use Google.

No he specifically taught internet security to elderly people who were afraid of the internet. You could say that he taught internet security to those intelligent enough to realize they needed education. I.e. ignorant, but not stupid. And after the class, no longer ignorant.

[Bizman]

--- he specifically taught internet security to elderly people ---

That's something that should be taught everyone. It would also help if the teacher were the same age as the students. Gramps teaching gramps, juveniles educating juveniles. Many elderly people have told me that their grandkids are very savvy with computers, but they show things fast as a lightning and get frustrated if they're asked to repeat s-l-o-w-l-y and use an understandable language.

[FLOOB]

Deleted reply because it was the wrong thread.

Move along nothing to see here.