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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2016, 01:06:33 AM »
But see, that's part of the problem - there ARE no official minimum or recommended requirements for the new version. That's why I waited as long as I did to upgrade, I wanted it to be close enough to feel like I had a reliable indicator that the upgraded rig would run the game before buying something that turned out not to be sufficient. A lot of people will probably wait until the actual release. I hope HTC will publish minimum and recommended system requirements for the new game here and on the front page and give folks a week or two to upgrade based on those specs before shutting down AH2. (I should be good to go either way, I'm just concerned for folks who are willing to upgrade but are waiting for official system requirements.)

To be fair Skuzzy and others have been very helpful when people (including me) have posted specs and asked if they look good to go or if not what they'll need in the way of an upgrade, but not everyone keeps up with the forum.
It's in Beta, they can't call any minimum specs until release or then it's almost false advertising. When release comes out I'm sure they will have an idea of what the minimum is so you can upgrade if need to.

Me personally to be completely honest was that the graphics weren't good enough compared to the frames I was dropping with my set up....which isn't new but it does run 6 other games (all within the last 2 years) on default graphics with steady frames so it isn't "out of date" yet either....but HTC did some tweaking which they posted about and my frames jumped back up to normal. If your system is struggling with the graphics just wait until release and see what you need, home built computers are pretty cheap than say alienware and YouTube will show you how to do anything these days.
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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2016, 04:59:32 AM »
But see, that's part of the problem - there ARE no official minimum or recommended requirements for the new version. --- A lot of people will probably wait until the actual release.---

As JunkyII already said, it's still beta. As the requirements change with each and every update making such a list would be impossible.

What I wanted to stress in my previous post is that basically no video intensive game can be played without a gaming computer. AH2 is a rare exception of the rule to some extent. What will be needed for AH3 based on the Beta is a mid to high end computer built for gaming. The recommendations given for those who can't wait for the initial release have been exactly that, good overall gaming rigs built with longevity in mind. My current rig can play both versions well enough despite the processor being released in 2008 and the video card in 2010, both bought second hand for a reasonable price.

[quote}To be fair Skuzzy and others have been very helpful when people (including me) have posted specs and asked if they look good to go or if not what they'll need in the way of an upgrade, but not everyone keeps up with the forum.[/quote]

Exactly. Any information and help you want is available if you ask. On the HTC Home Page, Downloads, there's the download page for AH3 Beta. The first three lines containing 35 words provide all the information needed, telling in capitals that it's BETA and including a direct link to the Beta forum. If people want to play an unfinished product without participating in the developing process, they most likely won't read the requirements anyway.

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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2016, 06:03:51 AM »
Just to clarify something repeated over and over again in this thread. 

You many not need a new computer at all.  If your computer has a dual core CPU running at 2.8Ghz, or better and at least 4GB of system RAM, then all you may need is a video card and, possibly, a new power supply.
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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2016, 07:21:30 PM »
I'm gonna twerk my system.

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« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2016, 09:51:05 PM »
Just to clarify something repeated over and over again in this thread. 

You many not need a new computer at all.  If your computer has a dual core CPU running at 2.8Ghz, or better and at least 4GB of system RAM, then all you may need is a video card and, possibly, a new power supply.

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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2016, 12:10:53 AM »
I understand what you're saying, I just hope we don't lose too many people to the switch. Numbers are too low as it is, and I doubt most of us have high-end gaming rigs or play the newestlatest games. Hopefully we'll gain some new players with the improved game, but for them to want to stick around there'll have to be enough people already in the arena to make it fun when they log on for their 2 weeks.

I just bit the bullet and ordered a new video card and power supply, but I'm probably a little more committed to this game than average. OTOH it wasn't much more than a year's subscription fees and I'm hoping this rig is good for a few more years.

what card and power supply did u get and does it work well?
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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2016, 02:18:51 AM »
It's a Gigabyte GTX 960 4GB but it hasn't arrived yet. I also upgraded my power supply from a 300W to a 500W. I thought about going for a GTX 970 but I'm on a tight budget these days and I can live without the maximum eye candy. As I've said elsewhere the other games I play generally don't demand much from the system.

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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2016, 02:27:39 AM »
I hope some of the working class types leave :old:
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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2016, 03:27:29 AM »
It's a Gigabyte GTX 960 4GB but it hasn't arrived yet. I also upgraded my power supply from a 300W to a 500W. I thought about going for a GTX 970 but I'm on a tight budget these days and I can live without the maximum eye candy. As I've said elsewhere the other games I play generally don't demand much from the system.

I'm using an EVGA 960 GTX 4GB. Full Beta eye candy allows 50+ FR's.

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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2016, 09:41:35 AM »
I fully admit that I have been existing on older laptop technology.  I bit the bullet this morning and purchased a Digital Storm Eclipse with the NVIDIA GTX970 card. I dropped $1500 on it, but I really do need it.  Really.  Like, I mean it.  I don't think I can run my CAD software on anything less.  Or my structural software. 

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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2016, 10:43:07 AM »
She saw the post. She's on her way over.

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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2016, 10:02:38 AM »
I fully admit that I have been existing on older laptop technology.  I bit the bullet this morning and purchased a Digital Storm Eclipse with the NVIDIA GTX970 card. I dropped $1500 on it, but I really do need it.  Really.  Like, I mean it.  I don't think I can run my CAD software on anything less.  Or my structural software. 

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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2016, 10:42:13 AM »
Holding out hope

quad core 4gb and gtx610 2gb video

First try with the beta months back gave me  4-6 fps
Tried the newest yesterday, up to 11-14 fps

More than doubled response in a few months so hoping  finalized version keeps improving
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« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2016, 10:56:06 AM »
Holding out hope

quad core 4gb and gtx610 2gb video

First try with the beta months back gave me  4-6 fps
Tried the newest yesterday, up to 11-14 fps

More than doubled response in a few months so hoping  finalized version keeps improving

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but our performance baseline video card, for AH3, is the NVidia 9800 GTX, released in early 2008.

The 9800GTX has 7 times more memory bandwidth than the 610.
The 9800GTX has 8 times higher texture rate than the 610.
The 9800GTX has 10 times the pixel rate of the 610.
The 9800GTX has 8 times more texture mapping units than the 610.
The 9800GTX has 4 times more render output processors than the 610.

The only things the 610 has an advantage over the 9800GTX is more video memory, and less power.

Simply stated, the 610 is not going to perform well in AH3.
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Re: Cry Babies!
« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2016, 03:24:09 PM »
Can the 9800GTX still be found on the market? (This is he question to ask, right?) :D