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Offline GScholz

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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #120 on: April 08, 2016, 05:41:59 PM »
I just hope there are 109 spots left by then...  ;)
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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #121 on: April 08, 2016, 06:30:03 PM »
RJH57, what do you say?  Are you up for it?  It has no Gabelshwanz-Teufels in it.

But it does have Lachender Teufels, but we always fly Axis.
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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #122 on: April 08, 2016, 07:08:02 PM »
I just hope there are 109 spots left by then...  ;)

There will absolutely be a Messerschwanz-Teufel for you if you can play.  :aok

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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #123 on: April 08, 2016, 07:43:24 PM »
 :aok :salute
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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #124 on: April 08, 2016, 07:48:22 PM »
That's what I remembered too Earl - I thought it was the slang the Japanese fighter pilots had for the P-38. BWTFDIK.

Again in the 40's how was devil translated from the Japanese communication when you could have the following nouns with multiple levels of meanings.

oni
yokai
akuma
enma

even kaiju for monster.

At least Japanese yokai folklore has a twin tailed fox (kitsune).
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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #125 on: April 08, 2016, 08:08:53 PM »
At least Japanese yokai folklore has a twin tailed fox (kitsune).

You mean "Tails?"


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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #126 on: April 09, 2016, 02:39:06 AM »
RJH57, what do you say?  Are you up for it?  It has no Gabelshwanz-Teufels in it.

Actually, I would not have any objections to flying a P-38 "Gabelshwanz Teufel", I like the plane, it's unique.  :airplane: Flew it occasionally in the old Air Warrior arena. I remember building a model of it when I was a kid. Thanks for the invite but my old PC does not have the horsepower to run Aces High.  I need to upgrade to a latest & greatest PC but the idea of re-installing and converting all my stuff to a new machine and Windows 10 is daunting  :frown:

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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #127 on: April 09, 2016, 02:57:50 AM »
The IJN/IJA pilot supposedly called the F4U "Whistling Death" due to the sound the Corsair made when in a dive but that is most likely the invention of another journalist trying to sell a copy and raise morale on the home front.

I don't think they would hear it inside their IJN/IJA cockpits ?  :airplane: Air combat is all about seeing your opponent first, not hearing him first. 

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"In Fighters, one must always quest to be
     a well-oiled machine fore Belching,
Whoring and Punching of Heads because
 inevitably the Goal is to flame the Enemy
            and Screw his Old Lady"

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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #128 on: April 09, 2016, 03:02:16 AM »
I don't think they would hear it inside their IJN/IJA cockpits ?  :airplane: Air combat is all about seeing your opponent first, not hearing him first.

It was supposedly coined by a Japanese soldier/sailor that was taken prisoner in the SWPA.
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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #129 on: April 09, 2016, 03:12:31 AM »
How to Fly The Lockheed P-38 Lightning Fighter Plane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKtfvcfHizk

Thanks for the link.  :aok

To return the favor, here is one you might enjoy that I posted to Youtube based on a panel discussion I attended:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J0lEHyKInw


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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #130 on: April 09, 2016, 03:20:06 AM »
Thanks for the invite but my old PC does not have the horsepower to run Aces High.  I need to upgrade to a latest & greatest PC but the idea of re-installing and converting all my stuff to a new machine and Windows 10 is daunting  :frown:

Do you mean that your old machine won't run AH2 or you don't think it will run the upcoming AH3?  For my setup, AH3 doesn't seem that much more resource intensive than AH2.

Also, in case it is of any use in labor savings or low-enough cost to reduce barriers to giving it a shot, I find that a $500 Dell Inspiron desktop with a $140 graphics card gives me 55-60 fps in AH3 beta.  You can still get an Inspiron Desktop with Windows 7 from the small business section.

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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #131 on: April 09, 2016, 09:17:23 PM »
So if the previous version of AH was AHII and the upcoming version will be AHIII, what is the current version?

Spork tailed weevils.
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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #132 on: April 09, 2016, 10:36:14 PM »
And by the way the p38 was caca.
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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #133 on: April 09, 2016, 11:00:38 PM »
And by the way the p38 was caca.

You should read the book "Fork-Tailed Devil," by Caidin.  :aok

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Re: Definitive proof of origin of "Fork-Tailed Devil"
« Reply #134 on: April 09, 2016, 11:08:35 PM »
Yeah, I'm going to read a book about some world war II airplane. And then I'll starting building scale models and maybe join a civil war reenactment club. And then I'll buy a life's supply of Jergens because I'm never getting laid again!
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