Top E Planes (non-perky)

[Slade]

Hello,

What non-perky planes would you say have the best E retention below 10k?


Thanks,

Slade 

[LCADolby]

Yak3

[FLS]

E retention is a myth. What you want is good low speed turning and a high climb rate.

[Vraciu]

Mustang CAN retain E (because it is slick) as long as you don't load it up.   Put G on it and say goodbye--without altitude you'll take forever to get it back. 

But for brute force I would say the Dora.   Not having flown it much but having fought it plenty the La-7 comes to mind as well.

[Vraciu]

E retention is a myth.  What you want is good low speed turning and a high climb rate.

Care to elaborate?

[Randall172]

generally speed is the only factor, fast planes don't bleed as much E when going too fast.

if you want to conserve E you shouldn't be pulling Gs unless you have to, only turn when you are at low speeds to minimize speed loss (anything below corner velocity, use gravity to turn your nose if you can).

fast planes can "hold" more E as kinetic energy.

so look towards the speed demons.

[DmonSlyr]

P38, P51D, 152, Spit16, Spit8, Yak3, 109K, 190D. They all are able to rebound quickly from a position and gain E more quickly than other planes. A few planes up there have different styles. These are top performing planes and are very dangerous in the right hands.

[Chalenge]

I think that above 12k is another matter. What most people in AH do not realize is that WWII aviation was always an engineering push for higher and faster. That does not translate into better turning at low altitude and lower speeds. The concept that someone can magically fly a high-alt energy fighter as if it were a low-alt energy burner has always been a fantasy.

Know your aircraft's limitations and the limitations of your opponent. There is no shortcut.

[FLOOB]

Yak3

Yak3 is not an E plane. You might have dyslexia.

[FLS]

Care to elaborate?

The phrase E retention is usually used when people don't understand the difference in available g at a given speed between different aircraft. Good low speed turn performance,  good acceleration/climb rate, and low drag are better descriptions of the characteristics lumped under E retention.

[Ack-Ack]

Hello,

What non-perky planes would you say have the best E retention below 10k?


Thanks,

Slade 

P-38 is one of the better E retainers in the game.

[GScholz]

The planes with the best combination of top speed and climb rate are the E-monsters. 109s, Spits, Dora in general. Lavochkins down low. 38s and Ta up high. Everything else is mediocre or worse.

[Oldman731]

What non-perky planes would you say have the best E retention below 10k?

The Spits.  All of them.  It's what makes them so dangerous.

- oldman

[FLS]

Anyone know if Slade is looking for an E fighter or a turn fighter?   

[LCADolby]

Yak3 is not an E plane. You might have dyslexia.

I can't think of a single better plane that can hold it's Energy better within the criteria mentioned in the OP.