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Offline LCADolby

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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2016, 09:03:06 AM »
And in real life, you can do that. On a standard computer screen, you don't. At least not at 'realistic real life' distances. Human eyesight is far better then the resolution offered by a screen.
As had been said before, no icons would only realistically simulate a visually impaired pilot. But if you really want to simulate that... ;)
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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2016, 09:12:52 AM »
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I wear glasses, so the simulation is very realistic  :D

I wear glasses too.  and the only reason I never play in the ava is because I cant tell the difference between airplane and shadow.  and most fights i found out happen at very low altitude to take advantage of this.  even in the ma an airplane low over the trees is very hard for me to see.

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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2016, 02:26:09 PM »
And in real life, you can do that. On a standard computer screen, you don't. At least not at 'realistic real life' distances. Human eyesight is far better then the resolution offered by a screen.
As had been said before, no icons would only realistically simulate a visually impaired pilot. But if you really want to simulate that... ;)

True, but that is why every sim game I know includes a view zoom function.  When paired with no icons this does a passible job of simulating real situations where you need to visually identify an enemy.

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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2016, 02:35:50 PM »
True, but that is why every sim game I know includes a view zoom function.  When paired with no icons this does a passible job of simulating real situations where you need to visually identify an enemy.

Right, lol.

If you consider your field of view to be "passable" when looking through a toilet paper roll.
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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2016, 02:55:18 PM »
With out icons how would you know an F6F is friend or foe? :headscratch:
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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2016, 04:25:01 PM »
My eye doctor worked with me to create a set of glasses for playing AH. The prescription is adjusted to the average distance my head is from the monitor instead of being computer readers. Most won't tell you they can do that for 32" or 64" away from your monitor. You have to know to ask and explain in detail what you need them for. They are crap for walking to the bathroom.
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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2016, 11:30:41 PM »
Right, lol.

If you consider your field of view to be "passable" when looking through a toilet paper roll.

Not sure what you mean by that, and thay combination works quite well for the vast majority of other sims, BoS being a possible exception.  I'd add all of these sims have a far larger active user base than AH.  Doesn't make them right or AH users wrong, but it does open up questions why this difference of opinion exists.  I'm not really sure to be honest.

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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2016, 04:43:57 PM »
That is what zoom 75%-100% looks like in the game.
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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2016, 05:12:09 PM »
Keep icons, but remove distance indicators from enemies.  :aok

Already tried in Brand X.  Was an epic failure. 

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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2016, 06:06:26 PM »
I do wonder what effect having FSO range icons (3.0 I think it is) in the MA would have on gameplay.




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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2016, 06:29:58 PM »
I do wonder what effect having FSO range icons (3.0 I think it is) in the MA would have on gameplay.
New players would be getting GGed all over the place me thinks...
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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2016, 06:42:19 PM »
New players would be getting GGed all over the place me thinks...

This...

I actually don't like the short icons in FSO... But it makes it fun when all the sudden a red icon or dozen is diving in on you  :x :aok

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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2016, 08:56:49 PM »
This...

I actually don't like the short icons in FSO... But it makes it fun when all the sudden a red icon or dozen is diving in on you  :x :aok



Yes, it is called a semi- realistic simulation of an actual combat situation.  With icons, much less chance of that happening.


New players would be getting GGed all over the place me thinks...

GGed?
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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2016, 10:02:49 PM »
Yes, it is called a semi- realistic simulation of an actual combat situation.  With icons, much less chance of that happening.


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GG means Good Game or slang for getting whooped. "GG noob"

Flying with icons off is great in the right setting, but it takes much more fighter combat understanding to be good at it.

You have to react a lot more quickly when the icons are off. You also have the ability to be very sneaky. If icons were off in the MA, and it was Axis V allies, you can bet I'd be eating noobs for dinner who didn't see me. Also, judging people's range from Icon distance is very built in. Without icon distance you have to judge your timing a lot more closely. Many players already have no clue about timing even when icons are on. Flying without Icons is much more challenging and takes a very good understanding of flight combat  and an even better understanding of Situation Awarness to be good at.

I like the icon distance in the FSO because it limits ganging. Instead of a guy 5K away who sees your fight to come gang. They have to be closer. You also can sometimes get a better jump on unsuspecting opponents, so it makes it more intense. With a 3K range it keeps the fights more compact because people typically need to stay in range to view their opponent.
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Re: No icons for AH3
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2016, 10:07:17 PM »
Yes, it is called a semi- realistic simulation of an actual combat situation.  With icons, much less chance of that happening.


GGed?

So you like FSO too...oh wait.... :rolleyes:
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