Why is "German" and "Luftwaffe" seen as synonomous with "Axis"?

[Karnak]

Here is an example:

 

Heres a thought how about an "OKL" for ah. We could set up a web page that is designed specifically for axis flyers in ah

Luftflotte 1 .......knights

Luftflotte 2 .......rooks

Luftflotte 3 .......bishops

We could have volunteer axis pilots serve as trainers ie a Erganzungsgruupe that help new guys (or guys like me who need some training) to develope into the next group of experten. Squads who are currently looking to add new members could go to this gruppe for recruits.

This could aid us in special events and the like.

What about the Sentais?  Are the Japanese aircraft not Axis? What about the Regia Aeronautica squadrons?  Are they not Axis?

This is a pet peeve of mine, but come on guys, German or Luftwaffe does not equal Axis.  I even saw one guy complaining that it wasn't fair to the Axis that the Allies had the 3 most popular planes in the F4U-1C (before the perking occurred), N1K2-J Shiden-Kai and Spitfire Mk IX.

Here it is, laid out plain:

Major Axis Nations:
Germany
Japan
Italy

Major Allied Nations:
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
United Kingdom and its Commonwealth
United States of America

Got it?

[Fatty]

Heh, always found it amusing that the japanese found their way into the allied conspiracy.  I guess that's just how deep the conspiracy runs  

[Wotan]

because I dont fly zekes nik2 or anything related to it and my interest is limited to what I like........

simple as that

i dont care in an f6f blows everytime you start the eng or if a jug can out dive a rock.......

again simple as that

i dont care if a mustangs can out run me or whether a spit was the original model for the Osprey

simple as that

I dont can what happened at pearl harbor miday or at the coral sea

not interested in any of those things

ETO axis only you others care worry about the rest

   

I will amend my previos post to include co-belligerents........

wouldn't wanna work 1 of your pet peaves..........  

[ 07-19-2001: Message edited by: Wotan ]

[Hangtime]

Damn, Herr Wotan, tell us how yah REALLY feel.  

[Karnak]

Wotan,

That's fine and all, but it doesn't answer my question.

You can simply say that you like German or Luftwaffe aircraft, but you insist on speaking for people who like Axis aircraft.  Even the ETO has the Italians as well as the Germans.

The Axis was three nations, just because somebody like German aircraft doesn't mean that is the sum total of Axis aircraft.

I like RAF aircraft (well, most of them), but I'm not overly fond of USAAF, USN or VVS aircraft, but I don't claim that British aircraft are the sum toatal of Allied aircraft.

The conceit I am speaking of seems to only aflick some of the fans of German aircraft, but no fans of other aircraft.

[Wotan]

dude your as close as you get to 1 of those pc dweebs who gets their panties bunched  because you think the phrases I chose may exclude someone.........  

I don't care in they are excluded......  

I only speak for myself.......  

I told you what my interest are they are not axis italy (although i think its great italian ac are included in ah and hope to see more) they are not axis japan (dont care if there  0 or all japanese ww2 ac are included)....... so whats left ? axis german
which means lw.... so if I limit my post to what I'm interested in they would be
.....eto
......axis
........germany
.........luftwaffe

see how that works......  

btw there was no real axis airforce each nation's airforce fought exclusively (with the exception of some combined operations with germany and italy) under the command of their respective nation. So axis may have meant something on paper but did little to help them win the war.......


edit you forgot croatia bulgaria roumania french belgian norway finland and on and on and on

I've excluded them as well each plus a bunch more which had pilots flying with "axis forces.......

[ 07-19-2001: Message edited by: Wotan ]

[Animal]

nerds

[Seeker]

The weirdest thing is that the most vociferous Luftwaffles have never even seen Germany....

[SOB]

Mr. Fish is the king LuftWaffle and he goes there once a year from what I understand.  Something about a pilgrimage for leather lederhosen and transgender prostitutes.  Not sure what that's all about?


SOB

[Staga]

Originally posted by Seeker:
The weirdest thing is that the most vociferous Luftwaffles have never even seen Germany....

Dam you're right! I've never thought it that way!
It sure is weird !

[Hristo]

Yea, and while we are at it, how many spit dweebs have visited Britain ?  

Wotan, you also forgot Hungary.

[ 07-20-2001: Message edited by: Hristo ]

[Seeker]

I think you'll find many more nations flew the Spit than just the English, and that most that fly it in AH have lived in a country that flew them.

We won, after all  

[StSanta]

It's simple.

LW owns.

[Wotan]

oops I flew a g2 yesterday with out visiting finland ................

oh I guess you figure 109 190 ju88 etc were only flown by germany.............


Hristo I left out several others nations who had pilots flying for the axis..........

[Seeker]

Originally posted by Wotan:
[QB]oops I flew a g2 yesterday with out visiting finland ................


So much is obvious, Fins rarely displayed attitudes such as :

"Pray not for an end to the slaughter...but for VICTORY!!! ";

They had more important things to think about.

"oh I guess you figure 109 190 ju88 etc were only flown by germany............."

Of course not. I would, however, wager a reasonable amount that all LW fliers were flying for Germany and had been in Germany, even in the cases they them selves were not of German extraction; which was the thrust of the original post.


And this:

"Im Auftrage der Reichsbahn (By order of the State Railway)"

Refers to the Florida state railway, I hope, and not to the German state railway's most documentated and involuntary "customers"?

  I wonder if you can grasp why it is only the Finnish 109's display the appropriate markings. Probably not.

In any case, take a look here:
 http://www.worldwar2pilots.com/LW-Bernard.htm

For an example of a real man, who did real things, and learnt to leave teenage posturing behind.