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Offline Gman

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IL2 Bomblets
« on: February 05, 2017, 01:54:07 PM »
Never really spent much time doing a2g in the game, but came across an article on War is Boring today about the Il2, and it mentioned that it carried a bomblet dispensing PTAB/bomb, and could carry a couple hundred 3lb anti armor shaped charged bomblets in the bomb bay, as well as dispensers under the wing that held 192 of them. 

Anyone know how well they worked in reality?  I'm sure somebody has wishlisted them before, but I can just imagine the howling from GVers getting pelted so easily by cluster bombs, haha.  Just wondering how well they worked in WW2 vs German tanks and vehicles, not much out there that I could find regarding performance. 

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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 02:46:34 PM »
The PTAB was effective.  In one attack, six IL2s dropping PTAB 2.5 cluster bombs destroyed 15 tanks in one pass.  US and Germans had cluster munitions as well, both anti-tank and anti-personnel.
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2017, 02:47:20 PM »
but I can just imagine the howling from GVers getting pelted so easily by cluster bombs, haha


Can''t be that more easy than lazily dropping 2k bombs on them from a Tu-2  :devil
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2017, 02:48:18 PM »

Can''t be that more easy than lazily dropping 2k bombs on them from a Tu-2  :devil

Tu2s were able to drop PTABs?  Thought only limited to IL2 and Po2.
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2017, 02:49:09 PM »
Tu2s were able to drop PTABs? 


Not that I know of.
I think you misread my statement, or I had another English fail ;)
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2017, 05:59:00 PM »
For the game it might lead to the Il-2 being more frequently used and a bit more effective in the anti tank role but as Snail said is it easier to drop 1 ton bombs from a Tu-2.
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2017, 09:49:11 PM »
The Yak-9b carried them too.
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2017, 01:45:37 AM »
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2017, 06:32:16 AM »
Would dropping this many bomlets at once kill the frame rate?
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2017, 07:31:18 AM »
Would dropping this many bomlets at once kill the frame rate?

The Il-2 carried 192 PTAB. We have something comparable in game already: A formation of B-29s can drop up to 240 bombs, so you could test at low altitude how that affects the FR.
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2017, 04:07:02 PM »
This could be one of those things Hitech will never forgive himself for adding to the game once the none stop GVer, roast Hitech in effigy POSTS hit the forums. It would be interesting to watch the first player who gets the timing down to de-ack a field with them since we have so many who seem impervious to ack while flying low over feilds. If upon addition Waffle modified the YakT with the 20mm package to also have the bomb bay.

I bet it would be similar to dropping smoke from a storch at ground level on tigerIIs. I did that once and my smoke bomb was the final amount of damage to give me a tigerII kill from a storch.   
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2017, 04:46:43 PM »
Ptabs would make a nice compliment to how invisible gvs are now.
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2017, 07:48:05 PM »
It'll never happen. They were so devastating in real life I could just hear the screaming in the game when somebodys perked Tank got blowed up by them
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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2017, 01:07:36 AM »
This could be one of those things Hitech will never forgive himself for adding to the game once the none stop GVer, roast Hitech in effigy POSTS hit the forums. It would be interesting to watch the first player who gets the timing down to de-ack a field with them since we have so many who seem impervious to ack while flying low over feilds. If upon addition Waffle modified the YakT with the 20mm package to also have the bomb bay.

I bet it would be similar to dropping smoke from a storch at ground level on tigerIIs. I did that once and my smoke bomb was the final amount of damage to give me a tigerII kill from a storch.

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Re: IL2 Bomblets
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2017, 01:17:47 AM »
if it annoys GVers all the more reason to add it.

Driving to base and porking everything including hangars and then sitting on the runway with M4s seems to be a popular Bish tactic atm.   

Whilst our Hurri 2ds are more than capable of dishing them a cold taste of AH reality, they need enough warning to get off the field in time before the camping starts. 

The removal of F3 mode has killed alot of IL2 usage.  I barely see them these days.  I can still hear the whines on range Ghi just killed me AGAIN!   :D
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