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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #255 on: June 27, 2012, 05:58:54 PM »
Grey? Those are all blue shades. In fact your pic is a mixture of #BDC6D7 to #5E6987 blues. That is one of the pics i used as a reference. But I'll compromise and say it's blue-grey. My pics look a bit darker but that is a difference in lighting. With the light directly on it, it is the same color as yours.

The profile in question that I posted has blue tones to it agreed. :aok

I was to lazy to get the scan done of that plane from my book & I just pulled it off of the web.

However when you get it from the book directly & not from the Internet as I did for that post.

Then when you add the corresponding verbage from that book.

It looks to be grey on grey.






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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #256 on: June 27, 2012, 11:45:19 PM »
I'm going by this resource so it's going to stay as is. http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/AirWar/148/index.htm

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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #257 on: June 28, 2012, 06:39:43 AM »
I'm going by this resource so it's going to stay as is. http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/AirWar/148/index.htm

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That entire magazine was taken from this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Soviet-Lend-Lease-Fighter-World-Aircraft/dp/1846030412





Just thought you would like to have your skin historically correct from written English text that says the scheme was based off of the photographic evidence that's all.

 


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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #258 on: June 28, 2012, 02:13:44 PM »
It is historically correct according to the original magazine and not a copy that has changed the colors. (which are shades of green) It is in the game and will not be changed to please you. The original are shades of blue-grey since you're stuck on the 'grey' thing. I'm sorry I ever posted anything and will not in the future. But if it makes you happy, there... it's grey.

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« Reply #259 on: June 28, 2012, 03:05:03 PM »
It is historically correct according to the original magazine and not a copy that has changed the colors. (which are shades of green) It is in the game and will not be changed to please you. The original are shades of blue-grey since you're stuck on the 'grey' thing. I'm sorry I ever posted anything and will not in the future. But if it makes you happy, there... it's grey.

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My posting had nothing to do with pleasing me.

As I said just wanted to give you the information from the book.

If you have noticed that most skinners post their work in the other part of the skins forum as they typically like to be critiqued on their work.

I am not a skinner & have no ability in that regard. Anything you do will be a million times better than anything I could do. You based your skin off of that profile so be it. Then from that profile you came up with a good skin by my reckoning.

Sorry my post came across as an attack it was never meant to be one.

Don't stop posting your work because I had questions.
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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #260 on: June 28, 2012, 05:11:51 PM »
Viking, not all of those magazine type publications are accurate nor are they all right in color selection. Many 410 profiles from a certain publication are in fact completely inaccurate and false. So I wouldn't get so defensive if I were you. You really need the peer review part of posting skins to help such issues (color corrections, etc). Even if you're an experienced skinner, you can still make mistakes.

You're acting very defensive on it and I don't think you need to. Overall from what I've seen on those Northern camo patterns I'd say shades of grey are almost certain to be used rather than blue. Greys can have shades/tints from the red/brown range over to the blue/white range. I think the VVS colors in question were more paler than the vibrant blue you chose.

It's one thing to say "I won't resubmit it but if I do I'll add this to the list" and it's another to say "I'm never going to change anything and am right, period" -- and I think you seem to be taking the latter stance.

I would say please keep an open mind and that anybody can be wrong. If you post progress shots these things can be discussed and weighed before you are done and before the submission process. The entire posting-of-progress method allows for these things to come up naturally without any hurt feelings and a number of bad, inaccurate, or just plain wrong skins snuck their way into the game by avoiding any kind of peer review altogether.

I'm not saying yours is bad/wrong, but it would probably be helpful to do the whole posting thing next time.

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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #261 on: June 29, 2012, 01:35:54 AM »
It is historically correct according to the original magazine and not a copy that has changed the colors. (which are shades of green) It is in the game and will not be changed to please you. The original are shades of blue-grey since you're stuck on the 'grey' thing. I'm sorry I ever posted anything and will not in the future. But if it makes you happy, there... it's grey.

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I doubt Lyric was trying to be anything but helpful.....for you..... not for him...... :aok

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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #262 on: June 29, 2012, 09:49:33 PM »
Lyric, your information was interesting the 1st time. But pushing the same argument 3 times is unnecessary. If I post something for advise I'll be asking questions like I have on other planes that I've needed suggestions or tips on either the plane or the process. In fact, the Ding How B-29 that's duplicated in the plane list was redone because of a suggestion and information from someone else. I was late with this one since it's already in the game.  But believe me, I exhaust myself in research before and during my skin work. Ultimately though ya just gotta make a choice and go with it. Not as though we're building a house here. lol

As far as the B26b. I understand it's an old one. But it's very challenging and I've learned some techniques while doing it. Skuzzy told me it was an old one but I was already half way through. My son just graduated in digital media and we've been discussing the process which has helped me to understand the overall process more.

Thanks for all the comments, guys.

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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #263 on: June 30, 2012, 08:40:39 AM »
I seen that you said it was accepted, Been looking for it ever since then.

Great looking skin.  :aok

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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #264 on: June 30, 2012, 04:40:43 PM »
Ya there is a problem with the skins.res file or something. Some have the newer skins list and (like me) some don't. Skuzzy said it he's hoping the issue will be straightened out with the next batch update.
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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #265 on: July 25, 2012, 11:32:29 AM »
Just started a P-47D skin called "Big A** Bird II" from the 406th FG. It is a D-30 but as it lacks a fin fillet I am skinning it as a D-25. Is that "A" word really so offensive in the US that it needs filtering? It hardly rates as a swear word over here in the UK.
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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #266 on: July 25, 2012, 12:05:32 PM »
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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #267 on: November 17, 2012, 01:03:17 PM »
Next thing i will be skinning:



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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #268 on: November 18, 2012, 09:11:05 PM »
Next thing i will be skinning:


Looks Blue Gray in the top picture, but Green gray in the bottom one. Which is it?
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Re: Skins under construction PUF
« Reply #269 on: November 19, 2012, 05:53:54 AM »
Looks Blue Gray in the top picture, but Green gray in the bottom one. Which is it?

it has the RLM blue as a base with RLM green/grey on both planes  :aok
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