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Offline Vraciu

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #75 on: February 17, 2017, 04:16:03 PM »
I can't post evidence that 1 hour works better because the only real proof would be to change it in the arena.

I can point out that the numbers swing wildly in much less time than the 6 hour side switch time under the current system.  If the wild population swings are already happening over a much shorter time than the currently implemented "damper", seems to me the damper isn't doing much.  Further, it appears logical to me a shorter switch time might actually smooth out some of those peaks and valleys if people were inclined to switch.

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #76 on: February 17, 2017, 04:57:10 PM »
Off hours allow side switch per hour ..or when there is  below 30 people on...something like that.
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #77 on: February 17, 2017, 05:23:01 PM »
As soon it was obvious that a side was going to lose everyone would switch to the winning side for the perk points. I do think that a 3 hour switch time would be a good compromise and reasonable.

1 hour side switch  :noid

Fact is there is a large portion of this community who would love to beat up lemmings as a rook in the situation...why not let them have the chance instead of forcing a side on them???

How long does the Average Aces High player stay active online (removing the tower sitters)? 2-3 hours at a time? Then they should be able to switch and switch back within that time. Is it 6? Then 2 switches within 6 hours...
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #78 on: February 17, 2017, 05:28:53 PM »
As soon it was obvious that a side was going to lose everyone would switch to the winning side for the perk points. I do think that a 3 hour switch time would be a good compromise and reasonable.

Isn't it if they haven't been on that side for 12 hours when the war is won, they get nothing?  I don't recall it being tied to side switch time.

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #79 on: February 17, 2017, 06:18:22 PM »
During one login during primetime I can just about always watch at least 2 major shifts, sometimes 3 in a period of about 4 hours. On a weekend day, over the course of the day just about every side has ENY at some point.  The sides swing frequently over the course of a day.

I really doubt it could get much worse than it already is if it changed to a 1 hour side switch timer.

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Well, if all three sides experience the same amount of ENY then all's fair. :)

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #80 on: February 17, 2017, 07:59:39 PM »
Isn't it if they haven't been on that side for 12 hours when the war is won, they get nothing?  I don't recall it being tied to side switch time.

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it never stopped them before from switching.


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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #81 on: February 17, 2017, 08:29:58 PM »
As soon it was obvious that a side was going to lose everyone would switch to the winning side for the perk points. I do think that a 3 hour switch time would be a good compromise and reasonable.

Time delay for perk points when switching to the winners.  Solved. 

Frankly, perk points are irrelevant to me.   I have no need for them.   I'm not alone there. 
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #82 on: February 17, 2017, 08:46:33 PM »
what I really would love to see is a well thought and explained message to hitech about why the switch time needs to be changed.   instead of trying to convince each other about "what would work better".

after all the only person that matters in this argument is hitech.  so put your heads together and try to convince him.  I would love to see that posting.


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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #83 on: February 17, 2017, 10:28:59 PM »
I can't post evidence that 1 hour works better because the only real proof would be to change it in the arena.

I can point out that the numbers swing wildly in much less time than the 6 hour side switch time under the current system.  If the wild population swings are already happening over a much shorter time than the currently implemented "damper", seems to me the damper isn't doing much.  Further, it appears logical to me a shorter switch time might actually smooth out some of those peaks and valleys if people were inclined to switch.

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Would you say that the numbers swing less now that its a 6 hour switch compared to when it was 12 hour switch?
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #84 on: February 17, 2017, 10:59:50 PM »
Would you say that the numbers swing less now that its a 6 hour switch compared to when it was 12 hour switch?

I don't think there's a correlation.  My point is, the undesired behavior is already there.  What's the point in worrying about the switch time causing wild swings in population over short periods, when today, right now, we have wild swings in population over short periods?

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #85 on: February 17, 2017, 11:49:37 PM »
I don't think there's a correlation.  My point is, the undesired behavior is already there.  What's the point in worrying about the switch time causing wild swings in population over short periods, when today, right now, we have wild swings in population over short periods?

Wiley.

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #86 on: February 17, 2017, 11:53:48 PM »
I don't think there's a correlation.  My point is, the undesired behavior is already there.  What's the point in worrying about the switch time causing wild swings in population over short periods, when today, right now, we have wild swings in population over short periods?

Wiley.

so if we have wild swings over short periods of time then the answer would be to increase the switch time even further.


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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #87 on: February 18, 2017, 12:12:42 AM »
so if we have wild swings over short periods of time then the answer would be to increase the switch time even further.


semp

How would that solve anything?

It won't.  It will only make it worse as more people log off more frequently in frustration.  That's what's happening now.

Keep the system as is and pretty soon swings will be academic because the arena will only have six players.
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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #88 on: February 18, 2017, 12:17:48 AM »
so if we have wild swings over short periods of time then the answer would be to increase the switch time even further.


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 :headscratch:

The current swings occur in less time than the switch time. Please explain in detail how the switch time has anything whatsoever to do with the population swings?

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Re: maybe the three country system needs an adjustment
« Reply #89 on: February 18, 2017, 02:19:21 AM »
I think we should retire Knights from the game :old:
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