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Offline ImADot

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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #45 on: April 19, 2017, 10:32:08 PM »
I like it personally.  The one thing that popped into mind however is cloud effects; forming/dissipating and whatnot.  From what I can tell, clouds are "placed" in locations and don't ever move or form/build/dissipate.  I'll need confirmation from you or a terrain builder on that.  It would be neat if something like this could form, move across the map and dissipate, anywhere.  Not at "set areas" of the map. 

It used to be, and I'm sure it still is, that you can use the cloud editor to add clouds to any terrain. You place the cloud fronts, choose the cloud type, choose the cloud altitude, choose the direction and speed, and choose how long they last before they start over. So yes, they do move across the map, but it's not random.
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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2017, 07:24:18 AM »
LOL rule 4 for explaining to some twit why he should not act like an ass.
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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2017, 08:21:53 AM »
LOL rule 4 for explaining to some twit why he should not act like an ass.

You were not rule #4, the quote was, hence any response to the quote also needs to be removed.

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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2017, 10:58:35 AM »
Sigh , Post like this make me think I should never post about works in progress.

The cumulus is just one example of the new system. The reason I am working with it , is because it is by far the most demanding form to simulate. If the system performs well with it, the others are a piece of cake.

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I love the clouds. :banana:
 I'm lucky enough to be able to run the current ones with little issue. Not everyone is as lucky so this work is very important and appreciated.  :salute
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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2017, 01:22:35 PM »
You were not rule #4, the quote was, hence any response to the quote also needs to be removed.

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Ahhh thank you sir!   :aok
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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2017, 01:25:29 PM »
I love the clouds. :banana:
 I'm lucky enough to be able to run the current ones with little issue. Not everyone is as lucky so this work is very important and appreciated.  :salute

They are absolutely neat.  On Bustr's map, I was trying to bomb a battleship that just kept peaking through the clouds below my 38.  I finally had to drop below the clouds to make my bombing run. Ultra cool.

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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2017, 02:07:45 PM »
You should invest Tracker IR. Nice
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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2017, 05:54:15 AM »
Right, because it's ATC's fault you were flying a non radar equipped airplane in an area of convectivity.... :noid :huh :O :( :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch: :bhead

I am going to take a wild guess and say you started flying real airplanes this century.

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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2017, 10:58:30 AM »
I am going to take a wild guess and say you started flying real airplanes this century.

I don't see how that has any relevance to you flying into a thunderstorm and blaming ATC?
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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2017, 02:45:42 PM »
I don't see how that has any relevance to you flying into a thunderstorm and blaming ATC?
If you're IMC, you're kind of counting on ATC not to vector you into a storm or at least keep you out of depicted precip.
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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2017, 02:48:58 PM »
If you're IMC, you're kind of counting on ATC not to vector you into a storm or at least keep you out of depicted precip.

Not really their job.   It's still your responsibility as PIC--and if you don't have radar don't go anywhere near convection.   EVER.

My rule on radar: It's there to help me avoid, not penetrate.

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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2017, 02:53:49 PM »
If you're IMC, you're kind of counting on ATC not to vector you into a storm or at least keep you out of depicted precip.

Even IF they do, it's your responsibility not to accept the vector or routing.

On every crap box I flew with an original AW date in the 70s,80s and 90s, all had at least a basic form of radar.  Modern jets?  Forget about it, with wifi, datalink, nexrad if domestic, and modern radar there isn't much of an excuse.

Every pilot flies through weather, anyone that says different is a liar, but blaming ATC is not fair or accurate.
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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2017, 02:57:43 PM »
Even IF they do, it's your responsibility not to accept the vector or routing.

On every crap box I flew with an original AW date in the 70s,80s and 90s, all had at least a basic form of radar.  Modern jets?  Forget about it, with wifi, datalink, nexrad if domestic, and modern radar there isn't much of an excuse.

Every pilot flies through weather, anyone that says different is a liar, but blaming ATC is not fair or accurate.

It is if I do it!   :P

But yeah.  It's our own fault for being bullied/pressured into it.   At the end of the day you cannot be afraid to say *NO*.   It's a partnership but ultimately they work for us not the other way around.
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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2017, 02:30:15 PM »
Many moons ago (two years after the aforementioned incident) I was flying along WITH THE RADAR ON headed south on the Victor Airway towards Baton Rouge. We were following a Bonanza at the same altitude.

Ahead was a tall boy in a line of tall boys but it wasn't painting on the scope. Bases were 1000 feet, which is pretty common down on the Gulf Coast.

ATC couldn't give us much information and after some discussion with the other pilot we decided to deviate west. That particular cumulus cloud just looked violent. Everything was bright white in the blazing sunshine but we decided to go west anyway. The Bonanza pilot told ATC he wasn't painting anything and would proceed on the airway. The Bonanza hit the ground in four pieces.

Radar is A LOT better now and there are multiple sources of information in the cockpit we didn't have back then.

In the previous incident I was pissed at ATC because they were strongly recommending particular headings to me and the last one they gave me put me square into a ball buster but as it turns out they were going to turn me a few more times but the tornado evacuation cut off comms. Yes, it was my own damn fault but I was in my first year and couldn't smell thunderstorms quite yet (I did learn though... Use ALL your senses when dodging the big ones)

 And, no, I didn't have radar and, yes, I knew I was heading into a squall line of death and , yes, I did it on purpose.

On that particular run it was pretty common to punch the same squall line twice. A few times there were two squall lines 75 miles apart and I punched through them both twice. I was 20 years old and invincible.

We used to do some wild and woolly stuff back in the last century.

I am enjoying the sanctimony of the young pups on PIC responsibility in this thread.
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Re: First Cumulus Nimbus attempt
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2017, 03:03:53 PM »
I'm hardly a young pup--nor sanctimonious. 

You  say it was your fault.  Nobody can bash anyone who owns up to a mistake.   We've all done it, or soon will.   :salute
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