Author Topic: Stealing kills... (Read 1475 times)

Urchin · « **Reply #15 on:** September 10, 2001, 01:04:00 PM »

Oh, I agree that helping a friendly and stealing a kill are two different things. It is one to thing HELP someone stay alive, it is totally another thing to dive down in the hopes that you'll get another scalp for your belt. Unless you are a moron like say... Lazs, it is readily apparent who needs help in a fight and who doesn't. At least it is to me, and I've only been playing this game for 5 months now.

Nifty · « **Reply #16 on:** September 10, 2001, 01:38:00 PM »

I'll chime in quickly... bad form to put some lead in a death spiraling plane to snake the kill. Taking shots when the friendly is parked on the bandit's six is also bad form IMO. Just about anything else is fair game to me. As for the shooting you when you're landing thing, what I don't like about that are the ones that'll dive through the ack of field (or worse, a CV group) to do it, only to die immediately after hitting you. Anyways, kills should be awarded as soon as the plane is not flyable.

lazs1 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 10, 2001, 02:06:00 PM »

urchin... if you believe that you can tell without a doubt, in every case, "easily" when someone is in trouble and needs help or not then... you are either concieted without cause or an idiot or both.

As hooli says... I would rather someone help me when i may not really need it than to have them watch me die while my elevatorless, ammoless Hog trys every trick in the book just to live a few more seconds.

I have had people thank me for saving their butt when I wasn't sure if they were really in trouble. I imagine more than a few have wondered why ol 5 month urchin sat and watched em die when he coulda helped.
lazs

funkedup · « **Reply #18 on:** September 10, 2001, 02:09:00 PM »

LOL, "MA Etiquette" lessons from a guy who uses a B-26 as a tank.

Fatty · « **Reply #19 on:** September 10, 2001, 02:10:00 PM »

Kill the red planes, and be glad when other people kill the red planes. That means less red planes to kill you.

bigUC · « **Reply #20 on:** September 10, 2001, 02:19:00 PM »

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"You dont shot at a guy with his gear out"[/QB]

That lesson might save your life if you provoke the wrong redneck !

Urchin · « **Reply #21 on:** September 10, 2001, 03:05:00 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs1:
urchin... if you believe that you can tell without a doubt, in every case, "easily" when someone is in trouble and needs help or not then... you are either concieted without cause or an idiot or both.

As hooli says... I would rather someone help me when i may not really need it than to have them watch me die while my elevatorless, ammoless Hog trys every trick in the book just to live a few more seconds.

I have had people thank me for saving their butt when I wasn't sure if they were really in trouble. I imagine more than a few have wondered why ol 5 month urchin sat and watched em die when he coulda helped.
lazs

You've got an active imagination then. Sure, there are times when I WON'T help someone when they need it. If I would die 5 seconds before or after them whether or not I cleared one of the twenty-four bandits off their tail, I generally don't bother. If I see a guy thats got someone one his tail, I'll ALWAYS send out a check 6, even if I saw the dots furballing. That does two things, it lets the guy know I'm watching, and it maybe gives the guy a clue that someones on his tail. Generally, I'll be asked to help if the guy needs it and he is being chased by someone.

You may not be good at identifying planes in Aces High, I'm fairly decent at it. Using that, and by analyzing the situation the friendly plane (and the enemy plane, which I don't HAVE to identify, since it tells me), I can decide whether or not a plane is outmatched, in my opinion. Some guy turnfighting a Spit in a P47 or P51? Yea, he could probably use some help. Some guy in a Spit being run down by an la7? Yea, he could probably use some help.

Three friendly N1K2's gangbanging a spit? No, they'll probably be alright.

Look, I'm sorry for whatever I did to piss you off. I don't know why you don't care for me, and I honestly don't care much. Just drop it, whatever it was.

Urchin · « **Reply #22 on:** September 10, 2001, 03:07:00 PM »

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Originally posted by funkedup:
LOL, "MA Etiquette" lessons from a guy who uses a B-26 as a tank.

LOL, stupid comments from a moron who wasn't bright enough to vulch a B26 killing the goon that had landed on the field.

[ 09-10-2001: Message edited by: Urchin ]

funkedup · « **Reply #23 on:** September 10, 2001, 03:26:00 PM »

We captured the field and I did vulch you, I just got an assist instead of the kill.

PS Don't call me a moron again. Where's the love man?

Urchin · « **Reply #24 on:** September 10, 2001, 03:33:00 PM »

I thought you were being serious. If you weren't I apologize for calling you a moron.

minus · « **Reply #25 on:** September 10, 2001, 03:34:00 PM »

score potatos

funkedup · « **Reply #26 on:** September 10, 2001, 03:40:00 PM »

I was just bustin' yer balls Urchin, yer alright. <S>

SKurj · « **Reply #27 on:** September 10, 2001, 05:06:00 PM »

DOn't care about kill steals, rarely see it, and if i've done it, its been accidental. One way or another just killem all..

SKurj

Steven · « **Reply #28 on:** September 10, 2001, 06:47:00 PM »

I agree with Pepe. My thoughts are that this is just a game and you know how well you are doing no matter what the kill-count or score states. But even if a kill score is important to you, this "kill stealing" aspect is not restricted to one country and so I'm sure it levels the scores out for comparison purposes in the long run.

The thing I'm confused about is it almost sounds like some messages in this thread are saying that it's the final shots that get the kill, though I may be mistaken. Anyway, I disagree. I'm strictly a boomer/zoomer (if I turn more than 360deg, I'm gonna lose) and there are many times I damage an aircraft to fly off to escape a superior aircraft to be awarded a kill a minute or two or three later. So, if someone snakes in to destroy an enemy aircraft and he gets the credit, maybe you didn't damage that aircraft as much as you thought.

Just enjoy, it's only a game. I don't mind if a newbie enjoys spiraling to the deck after an aircraft I sent mortally wounded. It keeps him coming back and I know I did a good job.

-Puke
332nd Flying Mongrels

Otto · « **Reply #29 on:** September 10, 2001, 07:13:00 PM »

How do I know if "you are working the Con" or "the Con is working you?" In six year of online gaming I've never hear anyone explain this.
If I 'save' you your going to say I stole 'your' kill and if I leave you you'll say I didn't make a 'six call'
Basicly, I follow this rule. I'll NEVER shot over your shoulder. But, if 'your' con ends up in my gunsight he's 'my' con till he leaves.
Hell.., I'd give you the kill if I could.