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Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« on: July 07, 2017, 02:10:33 PM »
As a companion wish to my Universal perk pool wish, I would like to see a perked ordnance system introduced that was teased by Pyro a long time ago.

With a perked ordnance system, it would allow the introduction of additional ordnance packages that we don't currently have in game.  With the introduction of a perked ordnance system, it would allow the introduction into the game various ordnance packages that we don't currently have.  For example:

- 3.5 inch bazooka rockets for the A-20
- 20mm cannon nose package for the A-20
- HVAR rockets for the B-25H
- Torpedoes for the B-26
- PTABs for the IL2 and other Soviet aircraft (that we currently have in game) able to deliver PTABs
- Cluster munitions
- para-frag bombs

The above are just a few examples of perked ordnance packages that could be introduced into the game.
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2017, 02:16:19 PM »

- 20mm cannon nose package for the A-20


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Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2017, 02:21:59 PM »
Nuke for b29!!!! Sorry I got excited...lol. We do need some expanded ord packages. The Japanese and German bombers have the largest variety and they are mostly hanger queens.


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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 02:38:24 PM »
- HVAR rockets for the B-25H

I'm still wishing for AP shells for the pumpkin chucker.
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2017, 03:27:33 PM »
Nuke for b29!!!! Sorry I got excited...lol. We do need some expanded ord packages. The Japanese and German bombers have the largest variety and they are mostly hanger queens.

Do it...  :devil   Just make it so that even our biggest perk-hoarders (see old guys) would only be able to use 1 or two... Say 10k perks?  :bolt:

Lol must be at 30K+ to drop and will destroy everything within 1 sector up to the 30k.  :aok :noid

+1 for reasonable ords options.
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 04:28:53 PM »
PTAB does not need to be perked, the average pilot is accurate enough with 500 lbers to kill Gv:s on a regular basis, PTAB is not going to increase the ability to kill Gv:s..
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2017, 05:04:27 PM »
Patch notes from an update in 2006 (in which the F4U 3D model was updated) there was this interesting bit.

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"Revised the 3D shapes of the F4U's. The F4U-1C was excluded from the revision as it will eventually be dropped as a separate plane when a perk ordnance system is developed."

And a post from Pyro when he was still around to explain what HTC had in mind for a perked ordnance system.

Kidding aside, perk ordnance is what it sounds like- the ability to charge perks for specific ordnance loadouts.  It means that instead of having the 1C as a separate plane, I can just make 20mm cannons a perked loadout on the 1D and save space.  Beyond that, we could offer up some more exotic weapon choices without fear of them overrunning the arenas or having to add separate planes to do them.  57mm on your Mossie, Tiny Tims on your Corsair, whatever.  We're not going to do nukes so forget about that.  I don't know when this will be done so don't ask.

Since a perked ordnance system was in the development plan back in 2006 and for whatever reason not implemented, is this because HTC has lost interest and didn't see a game play value or just a time management/resource kind and slipped off the priority list? 
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2017, 07:29:31 PM »
As a companion wish to my Universal perk pool wish, I would like to see a perked ordnance system introduced that was teased by Pyro a long time ago.


I'll vote for this.

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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2017, 08:40:19 AM »
-1000 no ack-ack  no no no,
why are some players always trying to get other players to pay for a plane or a gv now it's ordinance. what*s next supplies? why don't you just put a price on supplies while your at it. it's so ridiculous.
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2017, 08:42:33 AM »
Do it...  :devil   Just make it so that even our biggest perk-hoarders (see old guys) would only be able to use 1 or two... Say 10k perks?  :bolt:

Lol must be at 30K+ to drop and will destroy everything within 1 sector up to the 30k.  :aok :noid

+1 for reasonable ords options.
no nukes--1 side would up nothing but B-29's and drop a country and win the war in 2 hours at the most.
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2017, 08:53:52 AM »
-1000 no ack-ack  no no no,
why are some players always trying to get other players to pay for a plane or a gv now it's ordinance. what*s next supplies? why don't you just put a price on supplies while your at it. it's so ridiculous.

I think there should be to be honest. Really wish there was more things to spend perks on in the game. Ord and supplies do cost money (irl) and do have a big impact on the game. With the new layout of bases, knocking down all the ord, or barracks, or fuel on the fields is much harder.
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2017, 08:54:51 AM »
-1000 no ack-ack  no no no,
why are some players always trying to get other players to pay for a plane or a gv now it's ordinance. what*s next supplies? why don't you just put a price on supplies while your at it. it's so ridiculous.

Clearly you didn't read the OP.

With a perked ordnance system, it would allow the introduction of additional ordnance packages that we don't currently have in game.  With the introduction of a perked ordnance system, it would allow the introduction into the game various ordnance packages that we don't currently have.

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In other words, all the current ords/loadouts would be free. No cost. If you want a more rare type of ords/loadout , you pay for it.
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2017, 08:59:04 AM »
Main article: List of surviving A-20 Havocs

Specifications (A-20G-20-DO)[edit]


 


 A-20s in bombing formation during World War II.

 


 A flight of A-20G or H bombers over France
Data from McDonnell Douglas Aircraft since 1920[22]

General characteristics
Crew: 3
Length: 47 ft 11 1⁄7/8 in (14.63 m)
Wingspan: 61 ft 4 in (18.69 m)
Height: 17 ft 7 in (5.36 m)
Wing area: 464 ft² (43.1 m²)
Empty weight: 16693 lb (7708 kg)
Loaded weight: 24127 lb (10964 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Wright R-2600-23 "Twin Cyclone" radial engines, 1,600 hp (1,200 kW) each

Performance
Maximum speed: 317 mph (276 kn, 510 km/h) at 10,700 ft (3,260 m)
Cruise speed: 256 mph (223 kn, 412 km/h)
Range: 945 mi (822 nmi, 1,521 km) (Combat range)
Service ceiling: 23,700 ft (7,225 m)

Climb to 10,000 ft (3,050 m): 8.8 min

Armament

Guns: 6× fixed forward firing 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns in the nose
2× 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns in dorsal turret
1x flexible 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine gun, mounted behind bomb bay

Bombs: 4,000 lb (1,800 kg)


Sorry no Rockets or heavy cannons
you forget the actual plane in the actual war in the actual time frame of lets say 1939-1945 would have to had and used these options/weapons
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2017, 09:06:30 AM »
I think there should be to be honest. Really wish there was more things to spend perks on in the game. Ord and supplies do cost money (irl) and do have a big impact on the game. With the new layout of bases, knocking down all the ord, or barracks, or fuel on the fields is much harder.
this isn't real life it's a game. so who pays the perks for the supps to resupp a town, the individual player, why should I burn my perks to resupp a town

 With the new layout of bases, knocking down all the ord, or barracks, or fuel on the fields is much harder.
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Re: Wish Revisit - Perked Ordnance
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2017, 09:09:29 AM »
I would like any bomb larger than 500lb/250kg cost perks if loaded on a fighter. 
Too easy for one fighter to kill a hangar and then go fighter mode or just run away at high speed.  Let bombers do the heavy bombing.
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