Manned ack should count as a kill?

[popeye]

Not sure I understand the reason manned guns are treated different than other manned objects?

They are different in that they are in a fixed position shown on a map, they are out of action for 15 minutes when killed, and their respawn can be timed to the second.

[gflyer]

Not sure why that makes how they are treated in the killed by/killed of aspect different? 

[Vraciu]

Just throwing ideas out.  My biggest gripe is I  bravely risk my cartoon life to capture a base... and the guys in guns dont risk anything.

In a nutshell. 

[popeye]

Not saying that they should be scored differently, just that they are different from other manned assets in the game.

My experience is that it is much easier to kill a manned ack than to kill with it.  On the other hand, there is less "investment" in jumping into a manned ack than there is in flying or driving to attack it.  So, I'd favor not awarding a kill to either the player manning the ack or the player attacking it.

But, I'm okay with the way it is.  Doesn't really matter to me.   

[Vraciu]

Seem no one things about what happens when you kill the guns when no one there. Why would a gun manned by AI score differently then a gun manned by a player? Or an unmanned gun.

HiTech

Well, for one, manned AA is potentially far more lethal than auto depending on the player. 

[hitech]

Well, for one, manned AA is potentially far more lethal than auto depending on the player.

Once again , inaccurate hyperbole.

HiTech

[haggerty]

Well, for one, manned AA is potentially far more lethal than auto.

+1

[gflyer]

As more direct answer to hitech, it is not about the score. If you take scoring out and just focus on the human aspect of it.  Manned guns are currently a one sided affair, a low risk, low investment one at that. 

Make it even, either by awarding kills to all or none. 

Your game do what ya want, I'll still play. I see the value for having manned guns, my dad, Would love to have something he could watch tv and wait for the HITECH call to arms and jump instantly in the fight kill a few people and resume tv watching.  His satellite internet is a nonstarter tho. 

[hitech]

Make it even, either by awarding kills to all or none. 

As I said , no kills are scored in field guns.

Maybe your name in lights if you kill someone in a field gun?

HiTech

[gflyer]

When a guy shoots me down in his ack, his name as my last killer shows up?  Are there not kills in the score listing for field guns?  Or is that all just in my head? There is a whole list of names with kills awarded on the stats page in ship gunner..No kills awarded?  Ahh you still think this is about score.

Fair:
Human A can kill Human B.
Human B can kill Human A.

Not so much:
Human A can kill Human B.
Human B cant kill Human A.

8.4K gun kills of Humans this tour and counting.. Not one killed in the effort.

[hitech]

It is not score, only put in your list.

HiTech

[gflyer]

Updated my last post too slow.. That killing humans things is what makes this game what it is.. If I can get killed by one, I should be able to kill in return.. its a human thing.. The one that makes this game rock.

[haggerty]

It is not score, only put in your list.

HiTech

Score in this game is extremely broken, people care about not dieing.  Someone who ups in a manned gun has zero chance of dieing but a very high chance of adding to their kill count.  If people get a death for dieing in a manned gun I guarantee we'd see alot more people upping in actual vehicles and planes to defend their bases.

[caldera]

The problem is that it is easier to kill an ack gun than a goon.  Making guns count as kills would only encourage vulching even more.  No way should an ack count the same as a plane or vehicle.

Eliminate the kills landed message for kills in field guns.  Maybe that would encourage some that they have to work a bit for the glory. 

Or just stop loitering in the ack, looking for seals to club. 

[hitech]

Someone who ups in a manned gun has zero chance of dieing but a very high chance of adding to their kill count.  If people get a death for dieing in a manned gun I guarantee we'd see alot more people upping in actual vehicles and planes to defend their bases.

Field guns do not have a kill count. Guns do not have a death count. Guns do not have hit %. GUNS ARE NOT SCORED IN ANY WAY.
If you only gun you will show zero sorties in all categories. And be ranked last in all categories.

HiTech