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Offline asterix

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Make gv icons visible through trees
« on: September 10, 2017, 05:08:22 AM »
When an enemy vehicle is sitting below some trees or in a hangar with an engine off it is sometimes almost impossible to detect them. Icons don`t even show up on a Storch. There are thick trees on many places and a big area to cover. So make them visible please because I like to shoot stuff down and blow stuff up.
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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2017, 08:48:37 AM »
I thought the reason they added trees was to hide tanks in them better making the "cat and mouse game" of GV fighting so much better.

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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2017, 02:04:16 PM »
So what you are saying is that WW II pilots could see through solid walls and trees.  OK then.  I learn something every day; I had no idea WW II pilots were Superman.

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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2017, 03:32:28 PM »
I think the basic problem of GV combat in a wider sense (which is a bit more complex) can't be solved by making icons visible through cover.
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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2017, 06:12:48 PM »
Making GVs visible thru trees - No.   
Hiding GVs under cover was done every day.   We don't even get camo netting to make it harder to spot us, but I guess engine off in the bushes & trees is supposed to simulate that.

Make GVs actually emit SMOKE when they fire the main gun?  - Yes.  Nothing like being bombarded by an invisible tank that doesn't emit smoke or have a muzzle flash. 

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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2017, 06:23:58 PM »
I see muzzle flashes all the time from tanks; that is sometimes how I find them.  That's already modeled.

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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2017, 06:10:09 PM »
I see muzzle flashes all the time from tanks; that is sometimes how I find them.  That's already modeled.

A fraction of second muzzle flash isn't the same as persistent smoke & dust you get from the shock of firing a big gun, or indeed from the explosion of a shell hitting the ground.  Spawn camping would be made more difficult if either (or both) were modeled.

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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2017, 06:21:08 PM »
You can't see enemy plane icons from a tank even a little bit under a tree.

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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2017, 01:02:18 PM »
When the trees are thick enough and the right green color, you sometimes don't see friendly icons. I wonder how many GV guys since AH3 went live have killshot themselves on a friendly... :O
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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2017, 01:54:38 PM »
Nothing wrong with a little realism.



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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2017, 05:08:53 PM »
My main bellyache is , you can shoot through the bushes and smaller trees, but can't drive a 40 ton tank through them. Make it so you can drive through the lemon and oranges bushes. Other than that, it's ok.

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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2017, 05:38:14 PM »
Shilo,

Might as well make it so you can drive a tank through anything at that rate.

Quit a few other bushes and clutter can be driven through now if you are not aware of it. Also, how close you have to get to a trunk has been pulled back even more. Without something to define stopping your tank whether it looks like small trees, a highway bill board, or a giant rock. You no longer have a tank game, instead a mario brothers game of run through the trees faster than the red guys while holding down on the fire button.

You should try this from my end building a terrain and tuning the micro terrain where I setup the tank combat. If you are being honest, you test every spawn you set down for drivability, cover, long range sighting and shooting. What you want, OK, then we just paint the world in grass and you can have at it Mr. Mario.

I doubt many of the converted AH2 to AH3 terrains were really slaved over at each spawn to determine what would happen once players got to spawn into all of the GV spawns. You can adjust the amount of cover to open space with a very narrow brush application of a grass while you then run a build and login offline to test that spawn in a tank. It just takes time and the willingness to invest it to make a fun outcome for the tank game.

It's not Hitech castrating trees that will solve this, it's terrain builders taking the time to tune every spawn for a tank battle. Here see all those spawns, I still have to visit them to do just what I'm talking about. I did the same on BowlMA.


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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2017, 08:53:28 PM »

ww2 Tank muzzle flashes....... before you get the dust





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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2017, 01:20:10 PM »
Looks like he would have to use a half scale version of the art file he uses for the flame on the radar tower.
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Re: Make gv icons visible through trees
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2017, 07:33:25 PM »
Have tank tracks stay visible on the ground the entire time the tank is alive.