Disable MPA for noobs

[hitech]

Right now there is no visual cue that we can use to identify an new player, yes the name is unfamiliar but I don't know everybody. If there was a way to identify them maybe we could be able to offer friendly advice.

Normally they don't have any stars on their name.

HiTech

[The Fugitive]

If the OP didnt blow them out of the sky after the first merge EVERYTIME maybe they would hang around more than 3 flights.

I know the will to compete/win is strong in most people who play games but a vet knowing a players is a newbie could be come a great ambassador for the game by slowing down, giving the newb your six and letting them get off a few shots. A few wins and that start getting hooked, a few more and they start learning and before you know it they asking questions and taking their lumps like the rest of us did.

Blowing them out of the sky relentlessly is nothing more than chasing them away. As a "vet" we should be able to handle a bunch of "loses" much easier than a newb. I know what my choice would be in that situation, do you want to have someone to fly against, or do you want to chase another guy away?

[Lusche]

Normally they don't have any stars on their name.

But so do others... I think I had 0 stars three times int he past 2 years   

[Oldman731]

But so do others... I think I had 0 stars three times int he past 2 years   

I turned mine off, so even if I had some, no one would see them.

- oldman

[ImADot]

I turned mine off, so even if I had some, no one would see them.

- oldman

Pretty sure it only hides them from yourself...others will still see what you have.

[100Coogn]

I turned mine off, so even if I had some, no one would see them.

- oldman

How do we do that? 

Coogan

[buddyshamrock]

Burn and Learn ... we all went through it.

[nrshida]

If the OP didnt blow them out of the sky after the first merge EVERYTIME maybe they would hang around more than 3 flights.

Obviously you're unsure who you're merging with until the first pass. I was exagerating the typical experience. Some MPA players are purely out for score and will just take a set of duels with a noob as a gift.

I always try to help, usually they don't respond at all, I think they haven't even figured out comms yet.

a vet knowing a players is a newbie could be come a great ambassador for the game by slowing down, giving the newb your six and letting them get off a few shots. A few wins and that start getting hooked, a few more and they start learning and before you know it they asking questions and taking their lumps like the rest of us did.

I've do this a lot, even posted about doing it a few months ago. At least two new players from other flight sims I've spent an hour with each. Unfortunately not been back either.


I'm getting a general if-you-can't-stand-the-heat theme emerging here. While I agree to some extent I think the MPA is a bit Chinese restaurant gas-burner level of heat. Frankly, haven't seen a lot of those posting in the MPA either 

Insofar as the non US primetime I'm just reporting my experiences as first contact for a lot of players. Perhaps the can't-stand-the-heat thing is not very fashionable these days. The danger to conservative approaches is when the environment changes. You end up with one chef cooking for himself in what was once a busy restaurant.

[lunatic1]

MPA?

[lunatic1]

Right now there is no visual cue that we can use to identify an new player, yes the name is unfamiliar but I don't know everybody. If there was a way to identify them maybe we could be able to offer friendly advice.

well you could use that age old concept of trying to talk to them.

[lunatic1]

Normally they don't have any stars on their name.

HiTech

and their rank is 0 or no star and rank is very high 1200's or higher

[lunatic1]

don't be such snobs with the new players-talk to them. yesterday there was a new guy trying to take off in his plane from the Home hanger, he kept crashing into trees, I told him twice not to launch from there but he didn't listen-he tried a couple more times crashed logged off he gone.

some of these players won't listen even when they ask for help.
and they come in on help channel punching letters like it's some kind code they think they supposed to use.

[nrshida]

MPA?

Match Play Arena noobs!    Right, you're all banned 

[lunatic1]

ohhh hell no locking a player in the Match Player arena might was well shoot them in the head. that would be like putting in a isolation cell in prison, oh man I'm getting closterfobic just thinking about it.. no don't do it to them.

[Wiley]

Insofar as the non US primetime I'm just reporting my experiences as first contact for a lot of players. Perhaps the can't-stand-the-heat thing is not very fashionable these days. The danger to conservative approaches is when the environment changes. You end up with one chef cooking for himself in what was once a busy restaurant.

If I read right, you're essentially talking about guiding people through some kind of "start here, then progress to here, then you're ready for this thing, etc etc" type of experience as a newb.

I just don't think it's a great idea.  Some people are going to want match play at first, some will want to melee.  Some may head straight for the TA.  Restricting them from doing any of it is going to put them off.

Games with a learning curve are harsh at the beginning.  The only help for that is to make information easily available.

Look at any other multiplayer PvP game, like say Counterstrike or PUBG or Elite Dangerous.  You're going to run into difficult situations against people who have way more experience and skill than you have.  That is part of the game.  There is no way to avoid it.  If you have a "newb arena" all that does is defer the seal clubbing until they leave the newb arena (likely having learned bad habits going against only other newbs) and go to the "real" arena.

Wiley.