I liked Discovery overall, but its more like Star Trek on HBO when no one sensitive is around than the Jean Luc Picard (or Kirk) at dinner time with the family we may have grown up with.
I'll have to check out Orville. The commercials for it made it look like total cheese. I liked Galaxy Quest a lot, but I wasn't looking forward to a TV show that is nothing but a parody. It sounds like you guys think Orville achieved more than this though. Is the first season done? I'd rather binge it.
Haven't seen Discovery after first episode ( wasn't really thrilled with their take of the Klingons ). I was a huge fan of TNG.. tho still a fan of TOS, and DS9. Voyager was ok, and Enterprise, I thought, dwelt too much on the suliban.
Orville, however, doesn't really need to be binge-watched. There doesn't seem to be recurring theme to wonder what happens week-to-week.
I continue to be impressed with MacFarlane's world. Looking forward to season 2.