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Offline indian

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« on: May 21, 2000, 11:37:00 PM »
I just read some of the post at AGW and thought of answering them, well I gave up posting over there because I quit playing WB.  In some if not all the post I see some one say that Aces High planes fly like a truck well at well over 10,000lbs for the average fighter plane and over 20,000 for a P47 what do they expect. It seems to me that they either cant handle the flight model of Ace High or dont want to.

 I have read that some are waiting for WWIIonline to come out, well I m sure some here are also. I read that board also, you think the plane set is limited here how about one that starts at the beginning of WWII and goes to the end slowly. Were talking very limited and very slow planes. Those that like the U.S. iron will have to wait for quite some time to get their plane set that they want. I played WB and couldnt handle the price very long. I last quit under 2.74 with that stupid sinking filling with every move. I have been behind the controls of real airplanes, not WWII fighters and they feel like trucks. You cant just amgicaly turn with the flick of your rist like they want in AGW.

 WWIIonline was suposed to be open beta already and its not, they have plans to be a gameing network not a stand alone game like Aces High. The more stress you have on the srever the more warping you will have, just ask Skuzzy. Thats another thing we have Skuzzy they dont, he has bent over backwards to help players here. Do you see that in any other game, not near as much. He helps the individual not the masses. He goes after the problem not just pointing fingers. WBer's remeber the move and the Atlanta problem that was someone elses problem.

 The way I see it we have the best online game out and in the near future also, It has evolved faster with only six people then any other with Ten times that many. The only limitation is the players needs and wants (thats us). They have fixed problems sometimes on the weekend when others are at home. I went to see WWIIonline late last year and one of them commented that HT likes the late nights and weekend stuff. By the way Thank you and your staff for the dedication to a great game.

 On AGW I read thats Hotseat cant talk about designs anymore in fact his board might be shut down. You think they might be scared that there is nothing new and inovative enough to make WB.3 different. Most of the stuff coming out now is copying Aces High not the other way around. WB is fun for some but it is long in the tooth like AWIII is (I enjoyed AWWII for a long time).

 So what do you say about the other sims, I say move over theres going to be a new King of The Hill. HTC is doing it right this time and we are along for the ride.


P.S. This is not ment to step on anyones toes its my opinion.

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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2000, 12:15:00 AM »
AH is a game?? A sim??

dammo.. who'da figgered.

Brand W? LOL.. now; thats a game.  

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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2000, 01:09:00 AM »
Well put!  Must say, this event is kick ass! Good customer feedback and support, cheap like borscht, new stuff coming out all the time...
Friendly gamers, remarkably few idiots, informative and fun boards, special events arena 'no icons' is especially rockin good fun!
Tried AWIII, (gag), WB's milked me til the wife found out, AH came along just in time, been flying since late beta, still lame but getting there.
Anyhow, let's get a rock solid foundation, and let it all happen, it's going on right now!
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2000, 01:52:00 AM »
"Most of the stuff coming out now is copying Aces High not the other way around"

Such as?

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2000, 02:33:00 AM »
Totally disagree WB's still the best sim in town, Althought AH is VERY good. I will be flying AH much more lately (when I have  a chance). I have accounts for both. Flame on. Smoker out!! P.S. What Rounds said!

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Offline Maniac

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2000, 03:25:00 AM »
I am for sure gonna give WB 3.0 an try when and if it hits the streets.

As for wwiiol connectivity issues, they have Killer doing the networking and that says it all i think.

The addition of an mission planner and terrain editor in AH is in my mind the way to go, this will keep players who been flyin for years now and are an bit tired of the 'same old, same old'

But as for other sims copying AH, i dont really know what you are reffering to.

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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2000, 05:04:00 AM »
While I will download WB3.0 if it assumes solid form before I move to Florida and open a bar on the warf for my retirement   , it will be just out of the same morbid curiousity that makes you look at a car wreck as you pass on the highway.  The customer service is here is the kicker, I feel that my money is going to people who really like their jobs, so therefor like doing them for me. (my idea of success in the workplace is to find a way to get paid for something you would do anyway, but professional beer drinker is not what you'd call a growth industry   )  
So Thanks HTC.
Now, Enough with the back pattin' and back to the codin'! You know the public never sleeps!, except on election day  

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2000, 06:28:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by indian:
I just read some of the post at AGW and thought of answering them, well I gave up ........<con't>

Hi Indian....

I wasn't going to respond to -spawn's thread either, but I did anyway.  I don't think he gave it enough time to try AH.  After two weeks, my opinion of AH was still very biased and low compared to WB.  After 4 weeks, I was starting to really get into its unique offerings.  After 6 weeks I was very comfortable in the saddle.  Now I can switch back and forth with ease.  I actually have found that by learning the AH game's flight model and gunnery, it has substantially improved my WB's flying and gunnery.  Really weird and I don't know why, but I don't care.  Lots of fun with both and I'm sure WWII On-line will have its own traits that make it enjoyable as well.

Damn, I love competition.  The cream will always rise to the top.  Capitalism at its finest.  

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-spawn....

I agree with daff, belongs OT...but..

I fly and pay for both AH and WB....BTW, took me over 6 weeks to get comfortable with AH after 4 years of WBs.

I really enjoy both and the people using them for different reasons.....

Yes, both have their share of a "Jim Jones" cultist following....

I am also looking forward to WWII On-Line.....

I'm an average grunt pilot in both, with little technical expertise in WWII aircraft....

Business is my expertise, so I fly these games for fun, not a lifestyle...

Guess I'm too easy to please, but I do get overly vocal when I see the management of any business making historical mistakes ....

That's usually when I get into deep trouble on the BBS's.  

Good games, good people.....relax...enjoy...

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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2000, 07:23:00 AM »
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Offline Westy

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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2000, 08:10:00 AM »
 I've reached the point that I could honestly care less what AW, WB's or FA customers think, unless they are honestly curious and maybe need help tryin aH out. I still 'hang out' on the private AW news server, just as many of you WB"s here do at AGW.  But I stopped posting the 'Look at whats new!!" items long ago and the debates on what are better are futile. Folsk like what they want. Let them enjoy it. If they want more (more for AW and FA folks) they know where they can find it.  

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Offline indian

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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2000, 09:28:00 AM »
 I probably should have added some of the things that I believe others need that we have already. Like head movement in the cockpit (how many really notice it now), Flight control movement, vehicles that you can drive, everythins else that coming out in AH most ofthe rest will have to copy.

I found a home here in AH,I will try WB3 and any thing esle thats new but it will have to nock my socks off to keep me.

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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2000, 09:38:00 AM »
Warbirds is still my first true love (AW-DOS was first love, but lacked in alot of areas!) but after 5+ years, from beta to 2.74, it 'grew long on the tooth' as you say.

I'll leave my comments at that for obvious reasons!  

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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2000, 10:09:00 AM »
<Yawn>

Air Warrior had veichles for years, do we blame HTC for copiyng AW?

Really tired of the 'my sim is better then yours' crowd.



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