Is 4GB of RAM Enough

[Vraciu]

Actually it's M$ who deliberately sabotaged Win7/8.1 so computer with new generation CPU's do work but won't find updates anymore. Same happens on AMD Ryzen.

Can I upgrade what I have somehow or am I stuck going to Win10?   I hate to sound like a moron but I kinda' need some guidance here so I don't get hosed.  I do not want to go to Win10.

[Spikes]

You don't have to buy new necessarily to upgrade. Only the newest (and sometimes overpriced) stuff requires 10, ie the current-gen Intel and AMD's new Ryzen.

If you want to get down and dirty there are "Swap" sites such as reddit's /r/hardwareswap or other forums where people are dishing out previous gen parts daily where you can snatch up some decent deals on cpu/mobo/ram.

W10 isn't all bad though, the biggest gripe is probably the random updates that are applied.

[Vraciu]

That's what I was worried about.  The random updates causing me to glitch out when I am in AH3.

[Spikes]

I have W10 Pro and it has never randomly restarted on me, it seems to be the lower level W10s. Sometimes when I go to shutdown it'll do it's thing...but that is fine with me.

[Vraciu]

I have W10 Pro and it has never randomly restarted on me, it seems to be the lower level W10s. Sometimes when I go to shutdown it'll do it's thing...but that is fine with me.

Does it download while you are in the game?

Also, what's your take on this combo?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3466720

I'm starting to lose sleep over this.   LOL

[Spikes]

It doesn't seem terrible - I am not on the up and up in terms of part prices currently, I know RAM prices are very high. The i3 is a good budget CPU. Just have to make sure the mobo will screw into your current tower. Is the tower a pre-built? Sometimes they have their mobos intentionally different from a standard ATX or mATX so you can't upgrade "easily".

In reality it is usually better to just say what you want to spend and go from there.

[Vraciu]

It doesn't seem terrible - I am not on the up and up in terms of part prices currently, I know RAM prices are very high. The i3 is a good budget CPU. Just have to make sure the mobo will screw into your current tower. Is the tower a pre-built? Sometimes they have their mobos intentionally different from a standard ATX or mATX so you can't upgrade "easily".

In reality it is usually better to just say what you want to spend and go from there.

It's a standard Lenovo Mid-Tower ATX case.  If that won't work VDub has a gamer case he'll give me or I can go get one at FRY'S down the road.

I'd like to spend $300 or so.  If I have to spend more, okay.   I want this thing to run AH3 smoothly.   

I have an upgraded PS and a GTX 1060 3GB.   I am okay with the HDDs I have now.  I'm old school like that.   Just need RAM, MB, and a good CPU.

[Skuzzy]

Actually it's M$ who deliberately sabotaged Win7/8.1 so computer with new generation CPU's do work but won't find updates anymore. Same happens on AMD Ryzen.

Microsoft, in conjunction with both Intel and AMD.  Intel and AMD agreed not to supply any chipset drivers or microcode for later CPU's and motherboard chipsets.

Initially AMD said they were going to continue supporting Windows 7, then they magically changed their minds.

[Denniss]

With a bit pressure from M$ I assume like denying use of Win10 logos and similar if they officially support Win 7 with Ryzen.

[Vraciu]

Microsoft, in conjunction with both Intel and AMD.  Intel and AMD agreed not to supply any chipset drivers or microcode for later CPU's and motherboard chipsets.

Initially AMD said they were going to continue supporting Windows 7, then they magically changed their minds.

With a bit pressure from M$ I assume like denying use of Win10 logos and similar if they officially support Win 7 with Ryzen.

They made them an offer they couldn’t refuse.

[Skuzzy]

With a bit pressure from M$ I assume like denying use of Win10 logos and similar if they officially support Win 7 with Ryzen.

There appears to have been some level of collusion between the companies.  As to what it might be, is left for speculation.

[Pudgie]

There appears to have been some level of collusion between the companies.  As to what it might be, is left for speculation.

I'll put my money on this statement.........

 

[AAIK]

Agreed, the RAM makers probably are doing what they did more then a decade ago as well (collusion).

[Spikes]

It's a standard Lenovo Mid-Tower ATX case.  If that won't work VDub has a gamer case he'll give me or I can go get one at FRY'S down the road.

I'd like to spend $300 or so.  If I have to spend more, okay.   I want this thing to run AH3 smoothly.   

I have an upgraded PS and a GTX 1060 3GB.   I am okay with the HDDs I have now.  I'm old school like that.   Just need RAM, MB, and a good CPU.

Next question is how can you handle the Windows installation? Do you plan on buying a new copp (of 10)?

I might look into Ryzen just because you can get a little more for your money (getting a quad core vs a dual):
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113445
Most B350 motherboards are around $65-85 for the cheaper end ones
You could roll with 8GB of RAM now and pick up another stick later on. RAM prices are insanely high at the moment.

[Vraciu]

Well I just got 10 for "free" just in case.   I have an original 7 Pro as well on disc.   Whatever you guys suggest show I will handle it.