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Offline Wiley

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2018, 03:31:26 PM »
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2) Got documentation for this mere percentage point difference that you claim exists?

Just to make it easy to find.

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2018, 03:35:11 PM »
300MPH updraft!   :x

That would let players achieve great altitude without using fuel or time.
It would be gamed...

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2018, 03:38:30 PM »
That would let players achieve great altitude without using fuel or time.
It would be gamed...

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800mph downdraft then? ;)

My preference would just be for an orbital laser to obliterate their aircraft in a great flash of light.

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2018, 03:40:18 PM »
800mph downdraft then? ;)

My preference would just be for an orbital laser to obliterate their aircraft in a great flash of light.

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2018, 03:43:44 PM »
800mph downdraft then? ;)

My preference would just be for an orbital laser to obliterate their aircraft in a great flash of light.

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2018, 04:04:38 PM »
I love intercepting buffs, I have no issues with them going off map.  Just imagine the map continues forever, what difference does it make if you dont see ground below them?  I find that bombers are easier to spot off map as well.  My only problem with people going off map is that 84% of the time they will bail when you spot them, hopefully the new proxy ranges have fixed that. 
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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2018, 05:24:48 PM »
NOE is not lame behavior -- NOE mission mass bailing because one fighter flies over them (seen it happen many many many times *coughjokerscoughvtardscoughcough*) is lame behavior.

Driving a Jeep inside a Tiger2 and machine gunning it down (yes, you used to be able to do this) is lame game play.

Flying off the map 30 sectors to avoid combat in a combat sim is lame game play.

And GVDar has been shown NOT to have affected the rate at which vehicles are bombed by more than a percentage point, while the deaths of attack planes against GV's has actually increased, so THAT is a LAME ARGUEMENT!   :ahand  :bolt:

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2018, 07:34:46 AM »
How about infinite icon visibility distance when off map?

Fly off map: icon visible for 20, 30, 100k, Infinite.

They could hide (with only an arrow) on the map but not from those willing to chase them off map.
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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2018, 08:55:02 AM »
Leaving the map receives a warning "Return to map boundary in 5 minutes or all weapons and ordnance will be discharged".   If they don't return let them take an unarmed sight seeing tour.  :aok
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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2018, 05:27:47 PM »
Just make the dot visible to all countries once the con is off map.

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2018, 07:27:23 PM »
Some good suggestion so far. Would any of them be easy for Hitech to program?
Maybe the disabled ords or the engine off once outside the boundary would not be so dificult to implement. I do not know.

 It is also possible Hitech wants to keep it just the way it is. Do the few guys that wander off the map have any real impact on the game?  I have gone off map while afk during climb out and it was not my intention to leave the map. When I came back it took awhile to get back on the map. I was also allot further from my target than I anticipatd.  I wasted allot of fuel making my chances for return to base after dropping ords,  slim and none. Many bombers reach their maxium alitude and do not climb any more. None of the bombers climb forever.

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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2018, 09:26:28 AM »
This is not worth the time and effort needed by HiTech to fix/resolve.  The route the nme takes to the target doesn't really matter anyway.   If you chose to up to defend you just have to arrive at the target well above the bombers, all the targets are on the map.  The problem as I see it remains with Bomber groups who seem to have unlimited performance at the higher altitudes while interceptors seem to fall far short.  Now resolve that issue and your improving the game play.
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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2018, 04:37:14 PM »
I used to enjoy the challenge to find them.

The only disappointments I ever had searching were when I didn't realize the arrow was someone who had fallen asleep while his plane flew 20 sectors off map.

It was also fun to up a gun heavy fighter and fly NOE where I thought they would come back into the map and surprise them by getting into "proxy range" before they could bail.

I don't know why others don't do it.

Instead, they up from a rear field dragging a "I'm coming" darbar and whine when the strat raiders bail before they can intercept them.

It's a given that they are low when someone suddenly shows up at your strats.

I'm probably only at the controls for about 50% of the time so I often sat where I thought they would show up and turn the sound way up as I did things around the house.

When you take off from a rear field, you don't have to worry much about range comms blasting the cranked speakers.
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Re: Off Map Bomber Pilots
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2018, 05:22:21 PM »

 :aok  :salute

"Mark Twain reportedly once said that "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." Twain wasn't saying that statistics themselves lie; he was implying that dishonest people like yourself can twist statistics to support almost any purpose they have a vested interest in promoting.
In the link you gave, Luche said that "Absolute numbers don't say much. You'd at least would have to look at the percentages of kills compared to toal arena kills. Better yet, look at the hours played in the different modes as well (which would also give information about changing gameplay by true k/h)"
If you saw the graph with which you used to make your 1% claim, you certainly also saw his disclaimer about the validity of drawing conclusions based on it until the statistics they reflected were put in the proper context.
And yet you deliberately ignored what he said to further your own agenda.
Nice.