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Offline wil3ur

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Re: Harassment Policy?
« Reply #60 on: April 19, 2018, 02:29:11 PM »
As a person who's been muted by mods, I have to say the no rules thing doesn't bother me.  This is a private game operated by a private person. They give CM to people who hold a similar outlook as themselves and they take action as necessary.  It's their house they can do what they want.
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Re: Harassment Policy?
« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2018, 02:48:40 PM »
because the forum is open to anyone. the Game is a closed community of paying customers?  :salute

Bingo! Although the game and forum are both free to play now.

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« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2018, 02:58:51 PM »
Bingo! Although the game and forum are both free to play now.

And this is why this culture is declining... but oh well... we (USA) havel ong been
going down the tubes  :salute
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Re: Harassment Policy?
« Reply #63 on: April 19, 2018, 03:00:02 PM »
And this is why this culture is declining... but oh well... we (USA) havel ong been
going down the tubes  :salute
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Re: Harassment Policy?
« Reply #64 on: April 19, 2018, 04:17:16 PM »
And this is why this culture is declining... but oh well... we (USA) havel ong been
going down the tubes  :salute

Parents need to parent. If someone needs a specific set of rules published in order to act civil towards others, their parents failed miserably.
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Re: Harassment Policy?
« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2018, 04:34:44 PM »
Parents need to parent. If someone needs a specific set of rules published in order to act civil towards others, their parents failed miserably.

In a lot of cases kids aren't parented, they're housed.  :old:

My personal philosophy on online games is they should have the basic "No hate speech, no illegal crap" blahblah, a clause about "we reserve the right to mute you because we bloody well feel like it", and beyond that, give the players the tools to control what they see/don't see as they see fit.  Coding a robust chat interface takes up a HELL of a lot less time than policing player behavior.

But then some people wouldn't get the joy of reporting someone to an authority figure and then seeing them dealt with, apparently.

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« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2018, 05:04:29 PM »
In a lot of cases kids aren't parented, they're housed.  :old:

My personal philosophy on online games is they should have the basic "No hate speech, no illegal crap" blahblah, a clause about "we reserve the right to mute you because we bloody well feel like it", and beyond that, give the players the tools to control what they see/don't see as they see fit.  Coding a robust chat interface takes up a HELL of a lot less time than policing player behavior.

But then some people wouldn't get the joy of reporting someone to an authority figure and then seeing them dealt with, apparently.

Wiley.

I agree that there doesnt need to be a 12 page legal document but I think the enforcement end of the deal is where its lacking. If players see that poor behavior gets them muted /punished it can be a determent to others crossing the line as well. With so many people seeming to "get away" with things it just adds to the confusion and chaos

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« Reply #67 on: April 19, 2018, 05:13:21 PM »
I agree that there doesnt need to be a 12 page legal document but I think the enforcement end of the deal is where its lacking. If players see that poor behavior gets them muted /punished it can be a determent to others crossing the line as well. With so many people seeming to "get away" with things it just adds to the confusion and chaos

But if you could just squelch the guy's nonsense, what's it matter what he is on about?

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Re: Harassment Policy?
« Reply #68 on: April 19, 2018, 05:23:36 PM »
But if you could just squelch the guy's nonsense, what's it matter what he is on about?

Wiley.

Not everyone knows about the squelch, many have posted there are not enough slots for the guys they want/need to squelch (a big red flagg there that there may be a bigger issue going on in the arenas than believed)

If people are not punished/informed that they are of of order how will they learn? I know its not our place to teach them and its there parents, but in a lot of cases their parents dont play the game.

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« Reply #69 on: April 19, 2018, 05:31:47 PM »
Not everyone knows about the squelch, many have posted there are not enough slots for the guys they want/need to squelch (a big red flagg there that there may be a bigger issue going on in the arenas than believed)

Which is why I said a more robust chat interface could solve the issue, not "what we have now allows it".

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If people are not punished/informed that they are of of order how will they learn? I know its not our place to teach them and its there parents, but in a lot of cases their parents dont play the game.

It's not just the arenas, it's the internet at large.  If you want to see a good example of it, take a look at Youtube comments.

Good luck getting people to conform to your definition of "behaving" on the internet.

Now, you can endeavour to police your arena, or alternately, you could give your users the ability to control what they see.  I know what makes more sense to me.

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Re: Harassment Policy?
« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2018, 06:41:57 PM »
There is no law requiring HTC to post a written code of conduct for the game play space.

Not accurate at all, as there are laws in both the United States and in other countries that require a section of the Terms of Service that outline permissible player behavior.  Studio I work for had to redo our TOS for our online games when we were sued by players under their state's consumer laws.
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« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2018, 06:45:04 PM »
I would agree a certain amount of proof of enforcement is needed so the deterrent affect works

It is very rare for online game studios to disclose any disciplinary actions taken against another player, as it can be in violation of various consumer protection laws governing the release of "private" information.  Companies might disclose the numbers of people banned or suspended but they will never get into the private details such as naming the players that were banned/suspended or the fact that any disciplinary action was taken in the first place.
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Re: Harassment Policy?
« Reply #72 on: April 19, 2018, 07:35:28 PM »
And this is why this culture is declining... but oh well... we (USA) havel ong been
going down the tubes  :salute
yeah? And whose generations fault is that? Sure isn’t millennial  :aok

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Re: Harassment Policy?
« Reply #73 on: April 19, 2018, 07:52:12 PM »
I would agree a certain amount of proof of enforcement is needed so the deterrent affect works

I'll give you proof.  I have had my chat priviledges suspended for political talk both here and in the game.  i believe you have been suspended too if I recall correctly :).


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Re: Harassment Policy?
« Reply #74 on: April 19, 2018, 08:14:40 PM »
Maybe there should be a system message, like for landed kills, that would announce when a player is muted or ejected from an arena.
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