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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #180 on: May 21, 2018, 05:44:16 PM »
2018[edit]
A Royal Australian Air Force Boeing EA-18G Growler catches fire on takeoff. The aircraft skids off the runway and sustains damage.[298]

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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #181 on: May 21, 2018, 05:50:11 PM »
2018[edit]
January 20
A US Army Boeing AH-64E Apache crashes during training at the base in the Mojave Desert, California, killing both pilots.[297]
January 27
A Royal Australian Air Force Boeing EA-18G Growler catches fire on takeoff. The aircraft skids off the runway and sustains damage.[298]
January 29
People's Liberation Army Air Force Shaanxi Y-8GX-3 30513 crashes at Zhengchang. All twelve people on board are killed.[299]
February 2
Two Gazelle military helicopters belonging to military flying school: Ealat collide at Carcès lake, north of St Tropez, France. The collision kills at least 5 people according to local officials.[300]
February 3
Russian Air Force Sukhoi Su-25SM RF-94586/06, c/n 10393, is shot down over Idlib province while providing air support to Syrian government forces attacking the city of Saraqib. Pilot Major Roman Filipov manages to eject but is wounded while fighting militants after landing in a rebel controlled territory; he blows himself up to avoid capture. The Russian Ministry of Defence revealed that the aircraft was targeted by a MANPAD system.[301][302][303]
February 5
JGSDF Boeing AH-64D Apache Longbow 74502, c/n JP002, crashes at Chiyoda, Saga Prefecture after the main rotor breaks apart in flight, killing both of its crew and injuring a local resident on the ground. [304] The main rotor head was a rebuilt unit from another AH-64D.
February 10

Main article: February 2018 Israel–Syria incident
An Israeli F-16I is shot down by Syrian anti-aircraft fire and crashes in northern Israel with both crew surviving. According to the Israeli military the plane was carrying out a strike against an Iranian control system after an Iranian drone violated Israeli airspace.[305] Syria denies the drone entered Israeli airspace. In retaliation for the shot-down the Israeli military said it carried out a "large scale attack" on Iranian targets in Syria.[306]
10 February
A Turkish TAI/AgustaWestland T129 ATAK attack helicopter is shot down by YPG fighters near Afrin, Syria. The two soldiers on board are killed. It is the first aircraft loss of Turkey since its involvement in the Syrian Civil War.[307]
March 6
Main article: 2018 Russian Air Force Antonov An-26 crash
Russian Air Force Antonov An-26 RF-92955/52, c/n 10107, crashes on approach to Khmeimim air base in Syria, killing all 39 people on board. Technical fault is suspected.[308]
March 14
US Nav F/A-18F Super Hornet BuNo 166683, of VFA-213, crashes roughly a mile off the end of the runway at Naval Air Station Key West in Florida following an in-flight fire. Both pilots are able to eject, but die shortly after recovery.[309] A preliminary investigation revealed that the aircraft was attempting to land with one engine out.
March 15
A military helicopter crashed in southwest Senegal, killing eight people and injuring 13 others.[310]
15 March
A US military Sikorsky HH-60G Pave Hawk helicopter, of the 176th Wing of the Alaska Air National Guard, crashes in Western Iraq after striking a power pole, killing all seven aboard.[311]
March 18
A Syrian Arab Air Force Su-24 is shot down by rebels in East Qalamoun, East of Damascus province, crashing in friendly territory. The fate of the crew is unknown. A video emerged showing at least one of the pilots ejecting succefully.[312][313]
March 20
Royal Air Force BAE Systems Hawk T1 XX204, c/n 312051/051 of the Red Arrows display team, crashes at RAF Valley, Anglesey. The pilot is able to eject, but the engineer dies in the crash.[314] RAF grounds all Hawk T1s three days later.
3 April
A U.S. Marine Corps AV-8B Harrier crashes in Djibouti shortly after take-off.[315]
3 April
Myanmar Air Force Chengdu F-7M 1648 crashes in a rice paddy near Kone Kyun village, Bago region; pilot Major Arkar Win is able to eject, but dies later of his injuries in the hospital.[316] A witness reported a loud explosion before the crash.
3 April
An Indian Air Force Mil Mi-17-V5 crashes after striking an iron girder while landing, killing one and injuring three.[317]
4 April
A USMC CH-53E Super Stallion, of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, crashes near Naval Air Field El Centro for reasons unknown, killing all 4 crewmen.[318]
5 April
A US Air Force Flight Demonstration Team F-16 crashes in Nevada, killing the pilot.[319]
5 April
A Republic of Korea Air Force McDonnell Douglas F-15K Slam Eagle crashes into a mountain near Chilgok for reasons unknown while en route to an air base, killing the pilot; the copilot remains missing.[320] The ROKAF grounds all F-15Ks (except those needed for national defense) as a result of the crash.
6 April
A US Army Boeing AH-64E Apache helicopter, of the 101st Combat Aviation Brigade, crashes at Fort Campbell in Kentucky, killing both pilots.[321]
April 11
Main article: 2018 Algerian Air Force Il-76 crash
Algerian Air Force Ilyushin Il-76TD, 7T-WIV, c/n 1043419649, crashes shortly after takeoff from Boufarik Airport near the capital of Algeria, killing all 257 people on board.[322]
April 13
A United States Air Force F-22 Raptor fighter jet was damaged when it experienced an engine malfunction during takeoff. Apparently the left engine basically stopped working on takeoff, suddenly depriving the pilot of enough thrust to continue ascent after he had already raised the landing gear, forcing for a hard, belly landing that lasted for more than a mile.[323]
April 24
United States Air Force Lockheed Martin F-16C Block 42, 90-0760, c/n 1C-368, of the 56th Fighter Wing, overruns the runway while attempting to land at Lake Havasu City Airport. The pilot is able to eject safely.[324]
April 29
A Libyan Air Force Lockheed C-130H-30 Hercules crashes shortly after takeoff[325]. Out of the four total crew members and passengers aboard, three are killed on impact. The crash happened near the El Sharara oil field in Libya.
May 2
Main article: 2018 U.S. Air National Guard C-130 crash
United States Air Force Lockheed WC-130H Hercules 65-0968, c/n 4110, of the 156th Airlift Wing of the Puerto Rico Air National Guard, crashes on Georgia State Route 21 in Port Wentworth, Georgia while on climbout from Hilton Head International Airport and catches fire, killing all nine on board. This was to be the aircraft's last flight before retirement at the 309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (AMARG) base in Arizona.[326]
May 3
A Russian Air Force Sukhoi Su-30SM crashes in the sea off Jiblah, Latakia, Syria shortly after takeoff.[327] Both pilots die.
May 7
A Russian Air Force Kamov Ka-52 helicopter crashes during a routine flight over eastern Syria due to technical failure, killing both pilots.[32

Got a similar run down on all the worldwide car crashes in the same time period?



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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #182 on: May 21, 2018, 05:52:10 PM »
An F-22 won't fly on one engine?!

Yeah, there’s more than that to this incident.



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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #183 on: May 21, 2018, 07:55:20 PM »
2018[edit]
January 20
A US Army Boeing AH-64E Apache crashes during training at the base in the Mojave Desert, California, killing both pilots.[297]
January 27
A Royal Australian Air Force Boeing EA-18G Growler catches fire on takeoff. The aircraft skids off the runway and sustains damage.[298]
January 29
People's Liberation Army Air Force Shaanxi Y-8GX-3 30513 crashes at Zhengchang. All twelve people on board are killed.[299]
February 2
Two Gazelle military helicopters belonging to military flying school: Ealat collide at Carcès lake, north of St Tropez, France. The collision kills at least 5 people according to local officials.[300]
February 3
Russian Air Force Sukhoi Su-25SM RF-94586/06, c/n 10393, is shot down over Idlib province while providing air support to Syrian government forces attacking the city of Saraqib. Pilot Major Roman Filipov manages to eject but is wounded while fighting militants after landing in a rebel controlled territory; he blows himself up to avoid capture. The Russian Ministry of Defence revealed that the aircraft was targeted by a MANPAD system.[301][302][303]
February 5
JGSDF Boeing AH-64D Apache Longbow 74502, c/n JP002, crashes at Chiyoda, Saga Prefecture after the main rotor breaks apart in flight, killing both of its crew and injuring a local resident on the ground. [304] The main rotor head was a rebuilt unit from another AH-64D.
February 10

Main article: February 2018 Israel–Syria incident
An Israeli F-16I is shot down by Syrian anti-aircraft fire and crashes in northern Israel with both crew surviving. According to the Israeli military the plane was carrying out a strike against an Iranian control system after an Iranian drone violated Israeli airspace.[305] Syria denies the drone entered Israeli airspace. In retaliation for the shot-down the Israeli military said it carried out a "large scale attack" on Iranian targets in Syria.[306]
10 February
A Turkish TAI/AgustaWestland T129 ATAK attack helicopter is shot down by YPG fighters near Afrin, Syria. The two soldiers on board are killed. It is the first aircraft loss of Turkey since its involvement in the Syrian Civil War.[307]
March 6
Main article: 2018 Russian Air Force Antonov An-26 crash
Russian Air Force Antonov An-26 RF-92955/52, c/n 10107, crashes on approach to Khmeimim air base in Syria, killing all 39 people on board. Technical fault is suspected.[308]
March 14
US Nav F/A-18F Super Hornet BuNo 166683, of VFA-213, crashes roughly a mile off the end of the runway at Naval Air Station Key West in Florida following an in-flight fire. Both pilots are able to eject, but die shortly after recovery.[309] A preliminary investigation revealed that the aircraft was attempting to land with one engine out.
March 15
A military helicopter crashed in southwest Senegal, killing eight people and injuring 13 others.[310]
15 March
A US military Sikorsky HH-60G Pave Hawk helicopter, of the 176th Wing of the Alaska Air National Guard, crashes in Western Iraq after striking a power pole, killing all seven aboard.[311]
March 18
A Syrian Arab Air Force Su-24 is shot down by rebels in East Qalamoun, East of Damascus province, crashing in friendly territory. The fate of the crew is unknown. A video emerged showing at least one of the pilots ejecting succefully.[312][313]
March 20
Royal Air Force BAE Systems Hawk T1 XX204, c/n 312051/051 of the Red Arrows display team, crashes at RAF Valley, Anglesey. The pilot is able to eject, but the engineer dies in the crash.[314] RAF grounds all Hawk T1s three days later.
3 April
A U.S. Marine Corps AV-8B Harrier crashes in Djibouti shortly after take-off.[315]
3 April
Myanmar Air Force Chengdu F-7M 1648 crashes in a rice paddy near Kone Kyun village, Bago region; pilot Major Arkar Win is able to eject, but dies later of his injuries in the hospital.[316] A witness reported a loud explosion before the crash.
3 April
An Indian Air Force Mil Mi-17-V5 crashes after striking an iron girder while landing, killing one and injuring three.[317]
4 April
A USMC CH-53E Super Stallion, of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, crashes near Naval Air Field El Centro for reasons unknown, killing all 4 crewmen.[318]
5 April
A US Air Force Flight Demonstration Team F-16 crashes in Nevada, killing the pilot.[319]
5 April
A Republic of Korea Air Force McDonnell Douglas F-15K Slam Eagle crashes into a mountain near Chilgok for reasons unknown while en route to an air base, killing the pilot; the copilot remains missing.[320] The ROKAF grounds all F-15Ks (except those needed for national defense) as a result of the crash.
6 April
A US Army Boeing AH-64E Apache helicopter, of the 101st Combat Aviation Brigade, crashes at Fort Campbell in Kentucky, killing both pilots.[321]
April 11
Main article: 2018 Algerian Air Force Il-76 crash
Algerian Air Force Ilyushin Il-76TD, 7T-WIV, c/n 1043419649, crashes shortly after takeoff from Boufarik Airport near the capital of Algeria, killing all 257 people on board.[322]
April 13
A United States Air Force F-22 Raptor fighter jet was damaged when it experienced an engine malfunction during takeoff. Apparently the left engine basically stopped working on takeoff, suddenly depriving the pilot of enough thrust to continue ascent after he had already raised the landing gear, forcing for a hard, belly landing that lasted for more than a mile.[323]
April 24
United States Air Force Lockheed Martin F-16C Block 42, 90-0760, c/n 1C-368, of the 56th Fighter Wing, overruns the runway while attempting to land at Lake Havasu City Airport. The pilot is able to eject safely.[324]
April 29
A Libyan Air Force Lockheed C-130H-30 Hercules crashes shortly after takeoff[325]. Out of the four total crew members and passengers aboard, three are killed on impact. The crash happened near the El Sharara oil field in Libya.
May 2
Main article: 2018 U.S. Air National Guard C-130 crash
United States Air Force Lockheed WC-130H Hercules 65-0968, c/n 4110, of the 156th Airlift Wing of the Puerto Rico Air National Guard, crashes on Georgia State Route 21 in Port Wentworth, Georgia while on climbout from Hilton Head International Airport and catches fire, killing all nine on board. This was to be the aircraft's last flight before retirement at the 309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (AMARG) base in Arizona.[326]
May 3
A Russian Air Force Sukhoi Su-30SM crashes in the sea off Jiblah, Latakia, Syria shortly after takeoff.[327] Both pilots die.
May 7
A Russian Air Force Kamov Ka-52 helicopter crashes during a routine flight over eastern Syria due to technical failure, killing both pilots.[32

Nice list. Now we should compare with last 2-3 years during the same months and see if they come close.
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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #184 on: May 21, 2018, 08:19:00 PM »
Nice list. Now we should compare with last 2-3 years during the same months and see if they come close.

The last half dozen years have been about the same. 

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« Reply #185 on: May 21, 2018, 08:22:23 PM »
I posted this before but I think it is pretty instructive:http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #186 on: May 21, 2018, 08:37:18 PM »
I posted this before but I think it is pretty instructive:http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #187 on: May 21, 2018, 11:00:08 PM »
You all, except tinfoil suit who is clueless, took the posting of the list wrong considering the number of flight hours the American military flies.

Tinfoil suit try google for other years.

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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #188 on: May 22, 2018, 01:02:08 AM »
I posted this before but I think it is pretty instructive:http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #189 on: May 22, 2018, 03:45:21 AM »
You all, except tinfoil suit who is clueless, took the posting of the list wrong considering the number of flight hours the American military flies.

Tinfoil suit try google for other years.

I took it for what it was.   A nothingburger.
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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #190 on: May 22, 2018, 10:59:42 AM »
2018[edit]
January 20
A US Army Boeing AH-64E Apache crashes during training at the base in the Mojave Desert, California, killing both pilots.[297]
January 27
A Royal Australian Air Force Boeing EA-18G Growler catches fire on takeoff. The aircraft skids off the runway and sustains damage.[298]
January 29
People's Liberation Army Air Force Shaanxi Y-8GX-3 30513 crashes at Zhengchang. All twelve people on board are killed.[299]
February 2
Two Gazelle military helicopters belonging to military flying school: Ealat collide at Carcès lake, north of St Tropez, France. The collision kills at least 5 people according to local officials.[300]
February 3
Russian Air Force Sukhoi Su-25SM RF-94586/06, c/n 10393, is shot down over Idlib province while providing air support to Syrian government forces attacking the city of Saraqib. Pilot Major Roman Filipov manages to eject but is wounded while fighting militants after landing in a rebel controlled territory; he blows himself up to avoid capture. The Russian Ministry of Defence revealed that the aircraft was targeted by a MANPAD system.[301][302][303]
February 5
JGSDF Boeing AH-64D Apache Longbow 74502, c/n JP002, crashes at Chiyoda, Saga Prefecture after the main rotor breaks apart in flight, killing both of its crew and injuring a local resident on the ground. [304] The main rotor head was a rebuilt unit from another AH-64D.
February 10

Main article: February 2018 Israel–Syria incident
An Israeli F-16I is shot down by Syrian anti-aircraft fire and crashes in northern Israel with both crew surviving. According to the Israeli military the plane was carrying out a strike against an Iranian control system after an Iranian drone violated Israeli airspace.[305] Syria denies the drone entered Israeli airspace. In retaliation for the shot-down the Israeli military said it carried out a "large scale attack" on Iranian targets in Syria.[306]
10 February
A Turkish TAI/AgustaWestland T129 ATAK attack helicopter is shot down by YPG fighters near Afrin, Syria. The two soldiers on board are killed. It is the first aircraft loss of Turkey since its involvement in the Syrian Civil War.[307]
March 6
Main article: 2018 Russian Air Force Antonov An-26 crash
Russian Air Force Antonov An-26 RF-92955/52, c/n 10107, crashes on approach to Khmeimim air base in Syria, killing all 39 people on board. Technical fault is suspected.[308]
March 14
US Nav F/A-18F Super Hornet BuNo 166683, of VFA-213, crashes roughly a mile off the end of the runway at Naval Air Station Key West in Florida following an in-flight fire. Both pilots are able to eject, but die shortly after recovery.[309] A preliminary investigation revealed that the aircraft was attempting to land with one engine out.
March 15
A military helicopter crashed in southwest Senegal, killing eight people and injuring 13 others.[310]
15 March
A US military Sikorsky HH-60G Pave Hawk helicopter, of the 176th Wing of the Alaska Air National Guard, crashes in Western Iraq after striking a power pole, killing all seven aboard.[311]
March 18
A Syrian Arab Air Force Su-24 is shot down by rebels in East Qalamoun, East of Damascus province, crashing in friendly territory. The fate of the crew is unknown. A video emerged showing at least one of the pilots ejecting succefully.[312][313]
March 20
Royal Air Force BAE Systems Hawk T1 XX204, c/n 312051/051 of the Red Arrows display team, crashes at RAF Valley, Anglesey. The pilot is able to eject, but the engineer dies in the crash.[314] RAF grounds all Hawk T1s three days later.
3 April
A U.S. Marine Corps AV-8B Harrier crashes in Djibouti shortly after take-off.[315]
3 April
Myanmar Air Force Chengdu F-7M 1648 crashes in a rice paddy near Kone Kyun village, Bago region; pilot Major Arkar Win is able to eject, but dies later of his injuries in the hospital.[316] A witness reported a loud explosion before the crash.
3 April
An Indian Air Force Mil Mi-17-V5 crashes after striking an iron girder while landing, killing one and injuring three.[317]
4 April
A USMC CH-53E Super Stallion, of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, crashes near Naval Air Field El Centro for reasons unknown, killing all 4 crewmen.[318]
5 April
A US Air Force Flight Demonstration Team F-16 crashes in Nevada, killing the pilot.[319]
5 April
A Republic of Korea Air Force McDonnell Douglas F-15K Slam Eagle crashes into a mountain near Chilgok for reasons unknown while en route to an air base, killing the pilot; the copilot remains missing.[320] The ROKAF grounds all F-15Ks (except those needed for national defense) as a result of the crash.
6 April
A US Army Boeing AH-64E Apache helicopter, of the 101st Combat Aviation Brigade, crashes at Fort Campbell in Kentucky, killing both pilots.[321]
April 11
Main article: 2018 Algerian Air Force Il-76 crash
Algerian Air Force Ilyushin Il-76TD, 7T-WIV, c/n 1043419649, crashes shortly after takeoff from Boufarik Airport near the capital of Algeria, killing all 257 people on board.[322]
April 13
A United States Air Force F-22 Raptor fighter jet was damaged when it experienced an engine malfunction during takeoff. Apparently the left engine basically stopped working on takeoff, suddenly depriving the pilot of enough thrust to continue ascent after he had already raised the landing gear, forcing for a hard, belly landing that lasted for more than a mile.[323]
April 24
United States Air Force Lockheed Martin F-16C Block 42, 90-0760, c/n 1C-368, of the 56th Fighter Wing, overruns the runway while attempting to land at Lake Havasu City Airport. The pilot is able to eject safely.[324]
April 29
A Libyan Air Force Lockheed C-130H-30 Hercules crashes shortly after takeoff[325]. Out of the four total crew members and passengers aboard, three are killed on impact. The crash happened near the El Sharara oil field in Libya.
May 2
Main article: 2018 U.S. Air National Guard C-130 crash
United States Air Force Lockheed WC-130H Hercules 65-0968, c/n 4110, of the 156th Airlift Wing of the Puerto Rico Air National Guard, crashes on Georgia State Route 21 in Port Wentworth, Georgia while on climbout from Hilton Head International Airport and catches fire, killing all nine on board. This was to be the aircraft's last flight before retirement at the 309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (AMARG) base in Arizona.[326]
May 3
A Russian Air Force Sukhoi Su-30SM crashes in the sea off Jiblah, Latakia, Syria shortly after takeoff.[327] Both pilots die.
May 7
A Russian Air Force Kamov Ka-52 helicopter crashes during a routine flight over eastern Syria due to technical failure, killing both pilots.[32

So, what is your point?



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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #191 on: May 22, 2018, 03:04:32 PM »
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« Reply #192 on: May 22, 2018, 03:43:40 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8lbsfk/something_freaking_crazy_14_big_ass_military/


Something is going on out there. That's for sure.

I mean it couldn't be something as simple as being a result of our planes being old and hard to maintain.  Did you know that in 2017, 74% of USMC F-18s were not ready operations due to insufficient pilot training (not enough flying hours), lack of spare parts, etc.?  That is 208 F-18s out of 280 the USMC flies.  In 2017, 54% of the USN strike fighters were out of service due to the same reasons the USMC has had with their F-18s.  I'm sure the USAAF is having the same problems with their plane inventory. 

You might want to think about getting one of these to restore some of that oxygen to your brain that has been cut off because of your tin foil hat.

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« Reply #193 on: May 22, 2018, 04:07:39 PM »
I mean it couldn't be something as simple as being a result of our planes being old and hard to maintain.  Did you know that in 2017, 74% of USMC F-18s were not ready operations due to insufficient pilot training (not enough flying hours), lack of spare parts, etc.?  That is 208 F-18s out of 280 the USMC flies.  In 2017, 54% of the USN strike fighters were out of service due to the same reasons the USMC has had with their F-18s.  I'm sure the USAAF is having the same problems with their plane inventory. 

You might want to think about getting one of these to restore some of that oxygen to your brain that has been cut off because of your tin foil hat.

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The last half dozen years have been about the same. 

The real conspiracy is the love affair with the F-35.  Legacy Hornets and Vipers are not being replaced in order to afford the thing and they're falling apart.  The Marines especially so.  At least the Navy is buying Supers.
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Re: Can we talk about this C-130 crash?
« Reply #194 on: May 22, 2018, 05:36:14 PM »
I mean it couldn't be something as simple as being a result of our planes being old and hard to maintain.  Did you know that in 2017, 74% of USMC F-18s were not ready operations due to insufficient pilot training (not enough flying hours), lack of spare parts, etc.?  That is 208 F-18s out of 280 the USMC flies.  In 2017, 54% of the USN strike fighters were out of service due to the same reasons the USMC has had with their F-18s.  I'm sure the USAAF is having the same problems with their plane inventory. 

You might want to think about getting one of these to restore some of that oxygen to your brain that has been cut off because of your tin foil hat.

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During the late 70s/early 80s, there was a similar situation when the administration at the time raped the military budget.  Driving down the flight line at Langley, it was not uncommon to see multiple F-15s parked with one or both engines removed.  It got to the point the USAF didn’t have money for spare parts, not to mention flying hours were very minimal.

Throughout my career there were periods where multiple accidents occurred in a short time span.  The reaction from senior command was always the same.  Conduct a command wide safety stand down.  Have safety meetings.  Determine there was nothing connecting a string of mishaps other than coincidence.  Outcome: us line pilots missed a day or two of flying and nothing else changed.  Of course, when the accident boards presented their findings and there was any kind of crew responsibility found, a new rule or reg was added to the already enormous mound of crap we were responsible for knowing.  It was the well known military technique of spraying everyone with a shotgun blast to fix a problem caused by one individual’s intentional act.  Again and again, it was proven that good judgement can not be legislated.   



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