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Offline Devil 505

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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2018, 03:59:40 PM »
Players are beginning to use the film to pinpoint hidden GVs now as a first choice tactic. A player going to the trouble to hide and shutdown will more often stay in that spot long enough for someone to log out, review the film, and come back and pinpoint the hidden GV. Is no one concerned about this unintended consequence which is creating pinpoint GVDAR? It kind of makes this argument moot. Or will it have to reach the point that every sortie against a GVDAR block like telling someone to bring troops or an M3 for resupply. Someone film this and give us the location. You don't think the block dar boxes are not evolving this tactic?

Even more reason to just bring back the 6K icons for GV's.
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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2018, 06:36:03 PM »
This game tends to be a laboratory for long term tests of player responses to changes of their environment. 
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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2018, 12:02:42 PM »
The Rooks owned the vehicle base near the Bishop flak strat. I listened to a Rook on range last night say as he is driving off to hide near the Bishop flak strat "don't count on me for anything just hiding out here where they can't find me. That way if the field gets captured they can't find me and I can still hit there strat when I wake up in the morning."  This is why we have GV dar. This is also something that is wrong with this game.   A big -1 to anything that would make crap like this easier.
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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2018, 12:28:58 PM »
I love GV dar! Even though I still often struggle to find the GV in the huge square.

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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2018, 08:00:32 PM »
Does a vehicle in the water trigger a GV dar box?

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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2018, 10:25:45 PM »
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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2018, 10:02:56 AM »
... While running a flim takes "zero" skill to get a kill on them....

I'll run film when the GV is vultching aircraft on the runway.... Because rage and equal griefing.    I hope you're not going to say that parking a GV overlooking a field and zeroing in on spawn location is "skill".  about as much skill as upping inside the VH and backing up whilst waiting for enemy to capture the base to get easy spawn killz on people who just took the base...

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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2018, 12:31:03 PM »
I see the GV police are at it again. :rolleyes:
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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2018, 01:19:13 PM »
In this case we are creating an unintended consequence to counter a hard earned skill set by GVers who are playing the game by the rules and the limitations of the terrain.

Alt_R and you have turned on delayed pinpoint GVDAR. The hiding GVer has no indication of a film running. Yes an expectation to constantly move to new hiding spots will have to happen. This will not make half of Hitech's customers feelgood about keeping their subscriptions since not all of them are Mano, Tyfoo or Dr7 in terms of tank ACM strategy. Even if the competitors have GV only arenas with their own version of GVDAR that is rather specific in some cases. In those games the end result is not a 1000lb bomb which even the TigerII is no match for. In those games your tank combat skills can counter the advantages of their GVDAR. In our game, bombs are not impressed unless players can start main gunning bombs out of the air.

This is a conundrum since it is helping otherwise good players get frustrated and start using gamey tactics as a standard solution to players using the terrain to their advantage. It is a ginormous PITA to have a tank inside that DAR block and 6 people not be able to find it. What does that one guy in the end have to look forward to? A 1000lb ticket back to the tower in seconds of being spotted if he is an average tank player.

Our GV game in the MA seems to be one of catering to extremes. Either you are an ace at concealment and mobility or, you take part in large scale offensives to attack capture-able positions to take advantage of the numbers and chaotic activity. And neither condition is immunity from an average player with bombs. Bringing back long range Icons from the old days will add an unfair burden to GVers since I reached to point in AH2 with those icons I could land up to 5 kills a sortie in an IL2 using only guns. With bombs, wirbles are sitting ducks and just mobile targets to pick up kills. And you don't have to be as careful with tanks to get bombs on them.

Running the film as a GVDAR substitute out of frustration will not end well for our community.
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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2018, 03:20:19 PM »
At that point Bustr it becomes the community defeating the community.


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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2018, 11:09:36 AM »
yes

Does this mean a PT boat creates a GV dar box?

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Re: Thinking out loud about GV radar
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2018, 11:11:48 AM »
Does this mean a PT boat creates a GV dar box?

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