How do you fight what you cannot see?

[FESS67]

Come on guys.

How can we defend a base when we cannot see the enemy coming in?  This invisible GV crap is really turning me off.  I just want to log in, find the enemy and fight them.  I have very little interest in playing hunt the needle in a haystack.  More and more hunt GVs than fight planes in my time zone.

Come on Hitech, you have got to see that this is fundamentally wrong!

[flippz]

It’s not your time zone it’s the game. There’s really only about a two hour part of the day where I fight planes more than gvs and ack. This is quickly going WoWT.

[Max]

The game's always been about air and ground combat. It's just that the low player numbers accentuate the ground game, and I suspect the steep ACM learning curve serves to sway new players towards tanks, ground guns, etc.

I readily agree that the current GV dar and 53,000 lb tanks disappearing into tree branches is a huge turn off. I much preferred the original gv icon range and have heard countless players say the same.

[Oldman731]

FWIW, recently I've managed to get on more frequently than usual.  I haven't had a problem finding a fight, even on Buzzsaw.

- oldman (ran into a big B-26 mission last night)

[popeye]

I have very little interest in playing hunt the needle in a haystack.

+1

[Mano]

You can go into the Training Arena and learn to use the gv's. Also, there are lots of veteran gv’ers that can show you how to use a tank. It does not take long to find an enemy tank.
Most gv bases have a ridge they peak over and only expose their turret so they keep their hull down. Always check the ridges first. Just learn the basics.

 

[Wiley]

Alternately, you could do something fun.

Wiley.

[DLXIRON]

I readily agree that the current GV dar and 53,000 lb tanks disappearing into tree branches is a huge turn off.

Vehicles need to leave tracks on the ground!!!

[mERv]

Come on guys.

How can we defend a base when we cannot see the enemy coming in?  This invisible GV crap is really turning me off.  I just want to log in, find the enemy and fight them.  I have very little interest in playing hunt the needle in a haystack.  More and more hunt GVs than fight planes in my time zone.

Come on Hitech, you have got to see that this is fundamentally wrong!

Brah...  Your whine is dualy noted.  Since numbers are down why dont you go buy another computer and drop the enemy vh so you can be at two places at once! All the while keeping numbers up and showing shades how real man fight cartoon warz

<S> Finetime

[Devil 505]

Come on guys.

How can we defend a base when we cannot see the enemy coming in?  This invisible GV crap is really turning me off.  I just want to log in, find the enemy and fight them.  I have very little interest in playing hunt the needle in a haystack.  More and more hunt GVs than fight planes in my time zone.

Come on Hitech, you have got to see that this is fundamentally wrong!

Exactly.

If I wanted to die via some invisible menace, I'd take the batteries of of my carbon monoxide detector.

[waystin2]

The GV dar helps, but you should not be able to hide completely for an infinite amount of time.  Ever. 

[FESS67]

You can go into the Training Arena and learn to use the gv's. Also, there are lots of veteran gv’ers that can show you how to use a tank. It does not take long to find an enemy tank.
Most gv bases have a ridge they peak over and only expose their turret so they keep their hull down. Always check the ridges first. Just learn the basics.

 

True.  However I come to AH for WW2 based air combat.  I get no fun from the GV side of the game.

Also, getting into a GV does not address the problem which is that bases are taken from under our noses and we cannot see the enemy until it is too late.

[DLXIRON]

Also, getting into a GV does not address the problem which is that bases are taken from under our noses and we cannot see the enemy until it is too late.

To kill a GV you first must become a GV!

[bustr]

Much of the time that is due to the layout of the spawns, town and airfield from another era in our game that had 60 man hoards every night. Then insult it with no grass buffer around the perimeter of the field and town along with too many spawns in many cases. Still, there is always the late night low numbers problem where your field is being targeted becasue you want to furball more than defend it. I even don't like having my evening dictated by a single weenie in a tin can. Why so many now resort to the film as GVDAR sooner than later. The MA or Melee arena is a cage match brawl, not a polite gentleman's fisticuffs society. That reality can grind on you the lower your numbers get off peak hours.

One of my squad mates spent the last 4 months trying to influence my severely restricting GV spawns on my new terrain to address your concern. That is very misguided and would cost Hitech customers he needs to keep the doors open so both of you can be complaining about this. I also don't agree with AH2 era terrain design in AH3 since those terrains were created with 400+ players in mind to slow down 60 man hoards and a minimum of our prime time numbers during off peak time.

Terrain design can encourage game play and AH2 era terrains tend to help solo tin can greifers steal your furball feilds out from under you. Or a terrain produced to make GVers have ecstatic vapors and flutters looking at all the spawn points everywhere in a golden spider web of GV greiferism. It is what it is.....

[Mano]

I speak Verbosity and I can translate for you.
Most of the maps were made long ago when we had 400 plus players every night.
Be patient. More maps are on the way that are better suited for the lower numbers we currently see in the M.A.