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Offline Vraciu

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Help Requested, WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« on: July 27, 2018, 12:52:20 AM »
Okay guys I am throwing up my hands at this point.  I cannot get the yellow the way I want it.  Maybe I did and just don't know it.   The first pic is of my original yellow.  I then desaturated it.  Didn't like that so added more shine to it on the Spec Map.  Still don't like it.  What does it need?

I also need to tweak the red on the nose art.  Not sure I like this either.

I adopted this one from MachNix. 

ORIGINAL YELLOW:




DESATURATED YELLOW:






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Re: WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2018, 12:54:46 AM »
Desaturated Yellow With Lighter Spec Map Shade:





Original Yellow In Skin Viewer:

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Re: WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2018, 12:59:20 AM »
I think this is where Greebo's Power Map shade tutorial comes in.  Seems too sharp and shiny to me...

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Re: WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2018, 01:33:43 AM »
Looks great.

Quote from: Vraciu on July 27, 2018, 12:59:20 AM
I think this is where Greebo's Power Map shade tutorial comes in.  Seems too sharp and shiny to me...

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Yes, the colored paint looks much too glossy compared to the reference photos.
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Re: WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2018, 01:48:05 AM »
Quote from: Devil 505 on July 27, 2018, 01:33:43 AM
Looks great.

Yes, the colored paint looks much too glossy compared to the reference photos.

So which yellow would you go with?
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Re: Help Requested, WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2018, 02:52:23 AM »
Outstanding V. :aok
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Re: WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2018, 08:24:53 AM »
Quote from: Vraciu on July 27, 2018, 01:48:05 AM
So which yellow would you go with?

The color is fine. I just think you should flatten the sheen a bit.
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Re: Help Requested, WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2018, 09:54:26 AM »
That's a nice looking skin Vraciu. On the painted areas I'd leave the specularity alone but darken the power map to spread the reflection out more.


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Re: Help Requested, WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2018, 11:31:26 AM »
Thanks everyone.   I will give that adjustment a shot and be back...   :cheers: :salute
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Re: Help Requested, WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2018, 01:38:19 PM »
I'm still not doing something right...   :bhead



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Re: Help Requested, WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2018, 02:16:57 PM »
Here's a slight tweak.  Not sure which color looks best.  I put the old color as the large section of the composite screenshot.







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Re: Help Requested, WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2018, 03:01:56 PM »
Looks better now.
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Re: Help Requested, WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2018, 03:35:22 PM »
I think the sharp highlight on the spinner may be a bug in the shape, some of the Spits have a similar issue. However the rest of the painted area do look a lot less shiny now.
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Re: Help Requested, WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2018, 03:41:27 PM »
Yeah that's the spinner 3D shape.

Should I go with this?
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Re: Help Requested, WIP: P-51D "Croghan Cruiser" / "Waverly Democrat" 361st FG
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2018, 03:50:31 PM »
I think the matt finish of the yellow on last screenshots looks better than the glossy finish of the original ones. I'm not sure what the correct finish of the plane was though.
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