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Offline Spikes

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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2018, 12:28:20 PM »
Force manual calibration above 20k?

An alt cap will just make them safer.

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Exactly my thinking...unless somehow it would affect bombers but not fighters. 30K alt cap means fighters gain no advantage.
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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2018, 12:59:49 PM »
I like this.  Another thought I had was placing heavy cloud layers at 25k above all strats.

Hitech won't allow that or placing the cirrus layer low enough to whiteout the scope from sun glare.
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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2018, 02:10:02 PM »
Great ideas folks.  Wish there was a way to only apply to bombers not fighters.  My whole intention was to encourage those who choose to fly bombers at 30k+ and avoid interaction or virtual danger in the melee to... well interact a bit with those of us that breathe a little bit more oxygen.  :D
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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2018, 02:46:16 PM »
I see this in a few ways.

1) If a bomber pilot took the time to fly to 30k, he deserves to live. He has chosen to avoid combat and avoid he combat he just may.

2) If a fighter pilot takes the time to fly to 30k to kill a bomber pilot who took the time to fly to 30k, may the best pilot win.

3) Aircraft have ceilings, they are of no use to us if we have a virtual alt cap.

4) Some aircraft were built to perform at extremely high altitudes. If we deny them of those altitudes, why are they in the game?


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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2018, 02:54:22 PM »
Great ideas folks.  Wish there was a way to only apply to bombers not fighters.  My whole intention was to encourage those who choose to fly bombers at 30k+ and avoid interaction or virtual danger in the melee to... well interact a bit with those of us that breathe a little bit more oxygen.  :D

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Require oxygen above 10k. Make oxygen a damageable system. When it goes hypoxia, blackout sets in (the higher, the faster). Wakey-wakey starts at 10k. If your craft is intact, try spin recovery (or bail). :D

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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2018, 03:15:35 PM »
Great ideas folks.  Wish there was a way to only apply to bombers not fighters.  My whole intention was to encourage those who choose to fly bombers at 30k+ and avoid interaction or virtual danger in the melee to... well interact a bit with those of us that breathe a little bit more oxygen.  :D

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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2018, 04:10:18 PM »
The best tactic for fighters to kill bombers at 30K is real easy.   Get a scout to follow the 30K bomber and report location and direction.  Grab your best plane for high altitude and climb well in advance and get in front of bombers for a head on pass.  30K jousting event is now open for combat.

Bring two friends and take all 3 bombers down in one pass.

When the players who take the bombers to 30K and start getting blown out of the sky, either they choose to fly and fight or find something else to do.

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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2018, 04:14:13 PM »
The best tactic for fighters to kill bombers at 30K is real easy.   Get a scout to follow the 30K bomber and report location and direction.  Grab your best plane for high altitude and climb well in advance and get in front of bombers for a head on pass.  30K jousting event is now open for combat.

Bring two friends and take all 3 bombers down in one pass.

When the players who take the bombers to 30K and start getting blown out of the sky, either they choose to fly and fight or find something else to do.

Written by a bomber pilot who only enjoys flying and fighting.

Step 1 isn't even all that necessary.  Most of the time you can up in front of them and then play BarDar Mastermind and figure out where they are by where they aren't.  Unless they go off the map.

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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2018, 07:19:06 PM »
It takes about 4 sectors or more to get a B-17 loaded with bombs and 75% fuel to around 30k.   Many fighter planes can get to that alt in much less time.  I have fought many planes at 30k plus in a B-17 formation and I am moving at a speed that is slow.  That is where the fighters can hit and travel on to come back for another pass.  The B-17 is a sitting duck with only his gunnery ability to make it home safely.  I believe some of the enemy fighters get impatient and make careless moves that ends in their death.  Many bomber targets are deep into enemy territory.  That means long flights and a lot of time for the enemy to up an intercepting plane.   At 30k or more, I have encountered P47s, P51s, spits, 110s, mossies, 262s, 163s, 109s, 152s, etc..  They all fly faster than the B-17 at that alt.  I would rather not penalize a bomber pilot.  The b-17 does have a ceiling alt.  37k to 38k and you are barely moving at 120 +/- speed.  That's without eggs and a not a lot of fuel.

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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2018, 10:00:46 PM »
Good luck getting to 30k in a bomber during the radar test!
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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2018, 10:16:27 PM »
Tonight I saw 2 sets of bombers above 35k.  They are graduating from Alt Monkeys to Alt Baboons, though they are still a ways from being Alt Gorillas.

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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2018, 10:32:12 PM »
Tonight I saw 2 sets of bombers above 35k.  They are graduating from Alt Monkeys to Alt Baboons, though they are still a ways from being Alt Gorillas.

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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2018, 10:52:50 PM »
This is one of the worst wishes in AH history!

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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2018, 10:59:53 PM »
Please add a large downdraft at 30k to keep bombers at reasonable interception alts for prop planes.

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Re: Please add a large downdraft at 30k
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2018, 01:20:08 AM »
If you feel that the buffs are too high, well you don't have to chase them now do you.
Find something else to do.

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