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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #105 on: September 09, 2018, 02:40:15 PM »
Ditch in the dar ring on every sortie and you'll rocket up in your total stats.


No trying to be overly pedantic, but ditching in your own dar circle can give you a 'captured' (= death) at times.
All what matters is the ownership of the closest base, if that's a hostile one you will be captured. When bases are very close (enemy task groups!), you can be in your dar circle and still be closer to an enemy base.

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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #106 on: September 09, 2018, 03:43:23 PM »
Violator.............. 😊

I did pull your stats as Catfish6, and as Dmonslyr, and Violater, and Viol8her as well.

When Skyyr left, he posted EVERYTHING he had on the game, stats, tactics, some stat programs he built himself, etc. on our Facebook group page. The guy was like a mad scientist. One of the things he had was his own stats, in extreme detail, as well as the stats of anyone he had a running war with. This included tons of unlisted videos on YouTube and other things as well.

See this link here, where he pulled your stats before: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,372750.msg4966965.html#msg4966965

I ran Spatula's stat program to get your tours since the last stat pull as "Violator." Guess what? He still had more kills, as well as a higher K/D and K/H. The numbers I pulled were from all of your names and his, up to the last time he flew.

SKYYR'S TOTAL STATS:
Kills: 37,267
Deaths: 11,994
K/D: 3.11 (3.10714)
Top Plane by Kills #1: Fw 190D-9
Top Plane by Kills #2: LA-7
Top Plane by Kills #3: Ta 152H


VIOLATOR'S TOTAL STATS
Kills: 24167
Deaths: 8137
K/D: 2.97
Top Plane by Kills #1: 109G-14
Top Plane by Kills #2: 109K-4
Top Plane by Kills #3: Ki-84-1a


You can confirm the above using Spatula's  AH Stats Program. He also DID have a higher K/H, problem is to post the stats here I'd have to manually pull up the score page for each name and tour and add the time individually, then divide by total kills.

If you'd like to discuss offline, I'm more than happy to. But trust me when I say I've seen the numbers firsthand. Pull the stats yourself to verify my statements:

https://imgur.com/a/plFvIGk

Even if you compare the same tours when you played together, his K/H was higher after the first few tours (he started playing the game at Tour 166). The thing about the guy was once he learned and adapted, he played SOOO freaking much that his K/H was much more consistent than yours. Again, take a look at the screenshot or pull the stats yourself.

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P.S. -  Also, you keep saying he was running or whatever. The Skyyr I flew with didn't run from fights. In fact, he was usually outnumbered. His last montage was him flying almost entirely defensively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0ysFm3TDbI



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He did not have a higher k/d than me overall. He had no life. That's what he had. I don't agree with your stat analysis but you can post what you want. I'm pretty sure when skyyr looked up my stats, I had well over a 3.5 K/D.  Like I said he also flew easy mode planes that present no real challenge. Ive also flew a lot more attack missions and scored higher than skyyr in those metrics. He still never beat me in fighter rank in 2016 even when he did try ;)


 
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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #107 on: September 09, 2018, 03:46:18 PM »

No trying to be overly pedantic, but ditching in your own dar circle can give you a 'captured' (= death) at times.


Yes, I know.  If a CV is close by or another base is closer.

The point was meant to be understood in that context.
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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #108 on: September 09, 2018, 03:56:23 PM »

He did not have a higher k/d than me overall. He had no life. That's what he had. I don't agree with your stat analysis but you can post what you want. I'm pretty sure when skyyr looked up my stats, I had well over a 3.5 K/D.  Like I said he also flew easy mode planes that present no real challenge. Ive also flew a lot more attack missions and scored higher than skyyr in those metrics. He still never beat me in fighter rank in 2016 even when he did try ;)

#Excuses

#NumbersDoNotLie

I see you flying 109K4s and KI84s, talk about Easy Mode.    :old:   :D   


But more to the point.........

I just pulled ALL of your stats and pasted them above. Your combined K/D is 2.97 and your K/D just under Violator was 3.15. You never had a lifetime 3.5 K/D. Maybe under certain tours and sorties and fighter modes, but overall your K/D never got higher than 2.97 (or 3.15 if you're only referring to Violator).

Skyyr's K/D, combined from all names, was 3.10. Go pull the stats for the callsign Skyyr alone and you'll see his lifetime K/D under that name was 3.27.

Feel free to argue all you want, but I pasted the raw stat numbers in my previous reply. He had a higher K/D and K/H than you.

Disagree? Post the stats or run Spatula's program yourself.

Whether or not Skyyr had a life isn't something I can speak to...all I know is he outperformed you by more than 150% in 1/4 of the time while holding down a full-time job and working as a part-time flight instructor.

As for outscoring you....   Not only did he beat you in Tour 202 as StarFox for first place he also beat you with his shade Adonai (for third place).    You placed 7th.    :D :devil

https://imgur.com/a/cp432NY



   



Come on now, Violator.   You have to face the truth...   (I say this without malice.  You have helped me in the DA and I appreciate it, but come on now.)




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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #109 on: September 09, 2018, 04:12:41 PM »
This bloody is ridiculous. I've been following the link on the webpage under: Scores and Stats -> Statistics - Pilot. I didn't even know there was a dot command (or that it was different), that bails and ditches counted someplaces as deaths etc.

Talk about misleading and complex. Should have Lusche redesign the whole thing from scratch and give him a free subscription for a year.

Maybe this will help you, this is you as "nrshida" over the last 10 years in AH.

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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #110 on: September 09, 2018, 04:39:52 PM »
Maybe this will help you, this is you as "nrshida" over the last 10 years in AH.

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Cool, you have a tool that pulls all the info?  Would be interested in seeing my stats.
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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #111 on: September 09, 2018, 04:45:37 PM »
Cool, you have a tool that pulls all the info?  Would be interested in seeing my stats.

No no no, that would be just terble.

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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #112 on: September 09, 2018, 05:38:20 PM »
That's simply false. Skyyr never made #1 in attack mode. He flew noob airplanes. Yes a 190D and La7 is more noobish than a 109K or a Ki84. 109K is not easy mode.

Infact I don't try for #1 fighter rank every tour. I like to actually challenge myself with harder air planses. I have far more kills in higher eny planes. Not only that, he should have been far more superior In stats for playing 18 hours a day. What you don't understand is that I use attack rank as a throw away. This typically gives me more deaths. So your arguement is flawwed in the sense he didn't outperform me. Skyyr was never top rank in Attack rank either. Nore was he ever #1 in both attack and fighter at the same time. In fighter rank, I almost always had a better K/d and K/s than him. If you measured just fighter rank stats. I'd clearly out perform him in actual air combat statistics in much more styles of planes. Plus, I'm lucky these days if I can get 30 hours a month to play.

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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #113 on: September 09, 2018, 05:54:22 PM »
Cool, you have a tool that pulls all the info?  Would be interested in seeing my stats.

let me know what tours you flew and the name/s you used and I can run them.

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« Reply #114 on: September 09, 2018, 05:59:59 PM »
That's simply false. Skyyr never made #1 in attack mode. He flew noob airplanes. Yes a 190D and La7 is more noobish than a 109K or a Ki84. 109K is not easy mode.

I just posted the screenshot that proves he made #1 and #3 in fighter for the same tour.   Quit moving the goal posts every time you lose an argument. 

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Infact I don't try for #1 fighter rank every tour. I like to actually challenge myself with harder air planses. I have far more kills in higher eny planes. Not only that, he should have been far more superior In stats for playing 18 hours a day. What you don't understand is that I use attack rank as a throw away. This typically gives me more deaths. So your arguement is flawwed in the sense he didn't outperform me. Skyyr was never top rank in Attack rank either. Nore was he ever #1 in both attack and fighter at the same time. In fighter rank, I almost always had a better K/d and K/s than him. If you measured just fighter rank stats. I'd clearly out perform him in actual air combat statistics in much more styles of planes. Plus, I'm lucky these days if I can get 30 hours a month to play.

For a guy who doesn’t understand you sure like to tell people they don’t understand.   :old:


The numbers speak for themselves.   He flew 1/4 the hours you flew and scored 150% of your kills with a higher K/D and K/H.   This is indisputable.    Make all the excuses for this you like but that doesn’t change reality.
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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #115 on: September 09, 2018, 06:10:31 PM »
I don't understand your angle in all of this.

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« Reply #116 on: September 09, 2018, 06:15:53 PM »
let me know what tours you flew and the name/s you used and I can run them.

Only horble and horble1 (briefly). Started either Dec 2008 or Jan 2009 with gaps in playing that I can’t remember exactly when took place.
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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #117 on: September 09, 2018, 06:20:23 PM »
Only horble and horble1 (briefly). Started either Dec 2008 or Jan 2009 with gaps in playing that I can’t remember exactly when took place.

Well Im not going to hunt through to find "horble1" so Ill only run the "horble" ID. The reason I ask for the tours is because it takes time for the program to run and query HTC's data as it has to do one tour at a time with a pause between each so as to not over load the servers.

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« Reply #118 on: September 09, 2018, 06:22:01 PM »
Well Im not going to hunt through to find "horble1" so Ill only run the "horble" ID. The reason I ask for the tours is because it takes time for the program to run and query HTC's data as it has to do one tour at a time with a pause between each so as to not over load the servers.
  Works for me, thanks dude.
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Re: Kills per sortie / hour
« Reply #119 on: September 09, 2018, 06:34:13 PM »
I just posted the screenshot that proves he made #1 and #3 in fighter for the same tour.   Quit moving the goal posts every time you lose an argument. 

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For a guy who doesn’t understand you sure like to tell people they don’t understand.   :old:


The numbers speak for themselves.   He flew 1/4 the hours you flew and scored 150% of your kills with a higher K/D and K/H.   This is indisputable.    Make all the excuses for this you like but that doesn’t change reality.

The reality is that your arguement doesn't take into consideration many other sorties that were not taken seriously in attack mode where I died fooling around. Many also in high eny planes. Your premise is flawed in the sense that skyyr only flew ez mode fighter sorties and never flew as many squad base take missions, attack missions to CVs, ect ect.. as I did. I don't need to fly La7s and 190Ds. Skyyr also took his stats seriously from the time he started while I did not. Measuring his K/D relative to mine over 10 years just isn't compatible. I could start a new account tomorrow, only fly fighters like the LA7 every time, and completely blow skyyrs K/D K/S and hit% out of the water for a year. If you don't believe me just go ahead and bet me like Kruel did ;). I am far more superior in the MA than skyyr was. Overall fighter rank stats will prove it.
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