Stop Giving Auto Ack Proxies

[Vraciu]

I change my mind from -1 to...……………… I don't know, I'm so confused.

 

[icepac]

You have lost your mind and are really reaching.

[Hungry]

When people did other things this may not have been all that much of an issue.   I've always thought it was dumb to get a kill for the work the ack did but it wasn't that big a deal because at least you could find plenty of targets somewhere else.

I just saw a couple of people quit today over this issue when the numbers were already low.   Ack huggers are rewarded for doing it.  I don't see how that's a good thing.

Any way, it's up to Hitech to decide.   I just raised the issue for him to consider.   

<Salute>

Yea they'd call us ack hugging blankity blanks...  we'd call them stupid noob move dweebs it was all good fun

[Vraciu]

You have lost your mind and are really reaching.

Fascinating rebuttal.

[icepac]

That wasn't a rebuttal for anything you said.

It was a statement concerning your behavior here.

[Vraciu]

That wasn't a rebuttal for anything you said.

It was a statement concerning your behavior here.

So now you are the principal scolding students or something?

It was an inaccurate statement in any case.

[Ramesis]

Seems to me that the attackers that follow defenders into ack are to blame for their
own ignorance... 

[bustr]

It's been 18 years and the only change has been the intensity of the ack which doesn't appear to have changed how anyone plays this game in the MA. At least in 2000 the game was still just out of beta and players were trying to formulate their expectancy of what the future game play would, some more loudly like today "should" be. Hitech already had a vision of the future MA, and today it's obvious he saw it evolving into a broad spectrum combat venue like a caged match with 24\7 flag capture. Somewhere along the way the ACM only fans were given the DA and the two side war traditionalists were given the CT\AvA. The MA is still a 24\7 caged match dominated by capture the flag like it has been for the last 18 years.   

How does one promote air combat, rather than a sleazy vulch fest?

1>Makes acks stronger, to limit the vulches, gives new flyers a chance to get off the ground.

2>Make HO's where  only 1  pilot gets the kill, thus, in the designers head, discourages HO's.

This was discussed  in beta by the designers.  The purpose of AH is to PROMOTE ACM, not to resort to tactics of HO and vulches.

So, why don't you guys give  HTC a break and let them design the game the way they intended to?

I have never seen so many whines of HO's, Acks etc. in my life.  Here's the cure:
1> get away from airfields,you  have  the ability to fly away from ack-infested airfields.
2>Avoid the HO's, there are 20 ways to avoid them, USE some defense and avoid them, come around, and kill your opponent.

I personally get much more  satisfaction out of a medium altitude, away from ack dog fight  where both parties  try for  position rather than "guns hot" merge, than flying around low near an enemy airfield vulching the  hell out of everyone.

(Dons Flame-proof undies)

[Vraciu]

Seems to me that the attackers that follow defenders into ack are to blame for their
own ignorance... 

Not the point. 

[Ciaphas]

proxy kills shouldn't even be a thing... .


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[Vraciu]

proxy kills shouldn't even be a thing... .


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I think that depends.  If someone bails because they see you that's an earned kill.  You spooked them and they bailed. 

But if you fly around in your ack because you are a...well, you know...and ack kills the guy in the area then giving you a victory for that is truly nonsensical.   You did nothing for it.  NOTHING.    That the bad guy is no longer around to bother you is all the reward you deserve.

[Oldman731]

proxy kills shouldn't even be a thing... .

Respectfully disagree.  IMHO, the best fights are the ones where neither pilot fires his guns, until one of them makes the fatal loss of control  error.

- oldman

[Ciaphas]

Respectfully disagree.  IMHO, the best fights are the ones where neither pilot fires his guns, until one of them makes the fatal loss of control  error.

- oldman

but that's not a proxy... .


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[Vraciu]

Respectfully disagree.  IMHO, the best fights are the ones where neither pilot fires his guns, until one of them makes the fatal loss of control  error.

- oldman

but that's not a proxy... .


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WBs called that a Maneuver Kill. 

[Ciaphas]

WBs called that a Maneuver Kill.

thats a good term for it.


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