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Offline pembquist

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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2019, 03:20:54 PM »
is it worth moving windows onto the SSD or doesn't it make a difference?
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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2019, 04:18:24 PM »
is it worth moving windows onto the SSD or doesn't it make a difference?
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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2019, 05:30:12 PM »
SSDs are the standard these days.

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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2019, 05:32:46 PM »
The only issue I know of having an SSD only is in the nature of how they handle updates compared to HDD's. Skuzzy has mentioned it several times in the past. The problem is that AH can/will corrupt at some point; today, next week, next month, next year, no-one can tell. If you've prepared to do a full reinstall when that happens, an SSD is all you need.

This concern: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,325389.msg4255531.html#msg4255531 turned out to be unfounded.  Even my 2011 SSD still runs to this day, despite my abusing it.

Feel completely free to install your OS on an SSD drive, its completely standard practice for consumers and business for all usage types.
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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2019, 06:43:07 PM »
This concern: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,325389.msg4255531.html#msg4255531 turned out to be unfounded.  Even my 2011 SSD still runs to this day, despite my abusing it.

Feel completely free to install your OS on an SSD drive, its completely standard practice for consumers and business for all usage types.

I've seen what happens when Windows gets corrupted. I hope it never happens again because it's really ugly.
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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2019, 01:14:42 AM »
is it worth moving windows onto the SSD or doesn't it make a difference?
That's the main reason for getting an SSD, it really makes your system start and respond faster. In my opinion they're so fast that using the Sleep mode becomes irrelevant unless there's a large project open in several windows and even then I wouldn't dare leave it that way for longer than a lunch break. But it doesn't add a single digit into your frame rate in games.

This concern: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,325389.msg4255531.html#msg4255531 turned out to be unfounded.  Even my 2011 SSD still runs to this day, despite my abusing it.
As he said, "There will be those that come along stating they run the game from an SSD just fine". Just because you and many others haven't had any issues doesn't mean that the warning was unfounded. There's many who may have suffered from the game being on an SSD without knowing it or understanding the reason. And there's us who do as recommended and in case of issues can rule out at least one culprit. 

When someone asks for advise, warning about known potential issues is fair, don't you think?


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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2019, 10:24:35 AM »
That's the main reason for getting an SSD, it really makes your system start and respond faster. In my opinion they're so fast that using the Sleep mode becomes irrelevant unless there's a large project open in several windows and even then I wouldn't dare leave it that way for longer than a lunch break. But it doesn't add a single digit into your frame rate in games.
As he said, "There will be those that come along stating they run the game from an SSD just fine". Just because you and many others haven't had any issues doesn't mean that the warning was unfounded. There's many who may have suffered from the game being on an SSD without knowing it or understanding the reason. And there's us who do as recommended and in case of issues can rule out at least one culprit. 

When someone asks for advise, warning about known potential issues is fair, don't you think?

Just for grins, as I was one of those skeptical of having issues loading it from an SSD, when I recently upgraded I put it on the SSD.  My system had a tendency to load stuff in a little slowly, I figured it was related to the HD.  It appears to be just how an arena loads in in AH on my system, the SSD changed nothing.  I'm now in the camp of "not worth putting it on SSD, which makes the possibility of it damaging the SSD a moot point."

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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2019, 11:42:17 AM »
what make/model is your SSD ?

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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2019, 04:19:27 PM »
NVMe SSD are a waste of money unless you are working with lots of large videos, images or databases.
As a normal users you are hardly able to take advantage out of the high transfer rates offered by them. Plus if you're reding from or saving to another medium the advantage is zero unless it's another NVMe.
For the price of a 250GB NVMe you typically get double the size of a good SATA SSD.

Yep, fully agree.

I was logging read/writes for a week on Corsair MP510 960GB, everyday computing plus some gaming (DCS, ACC). Never went above 363 MB/s for reads and 130 MB/s for writes.

Large project in Revit brought it up to 380 MB/s and 188 MB/s. Adobe Premiere went to 302 MB/s before hitting the CPU bottleneck (i7-8700K)

So, unless you have some dual CPU beast of a workstation, you'll hardly ever enjoy full NVMe read/write/latency capability. Sure looks pretty on benchmark though.

That extra $$ is better spent on larger SATA SSD.

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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2019, 05:15:45 AM »
Dumb question here, I have both an SSD and HDD card, can I chose which to download to and if so how do I do that? :cheers: :salute
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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2019, 06:14:20 AM »
Windows Key + E opens Explorer. Right click on your Downloads folder (Downloads Library) and choose "Properties." Click on the Location tab and it will inform you where your library is. Click on "Move" and choose a new location (I suggest creating a Downloads folder on the HDD if that's what you want). Don't forget to periodically clean that folder of all the junk from time-to-time.
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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2019, 08:49:15 AM »
Dumb question here, I have both an SSD and HDD card, can I chose which to download to and if so how do I do that? :cheers: :salute
As Chalenge said, yes. The methodology depends on the browser you're using. The one described may be valid to Edge. In Firefox you can go to Settings and choose "Let me choose the location each time" or any folder in your computer as default. Chrome works similarly.
 
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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2019, 10:02:28 AM »
Hmm, I was referring to the default location of the Downloads Folder itself, which is a Library under Windows 10. In my opinion leaving all downloads there will allow you to cleanup after yourself more easily. If it works differently under Windows 7 I have long since forgotten.
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Re: Hard drive???
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2019, 11:19:58 AM »
Hmm, I was referring to the default location of the Downloads Folder itself, which is a Library under Windows 10. In my opinion leaving all downloads there will allow you to cleanup after yourself more easily. If it works differently under Windows 7 I have long since forgotten.

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That's how I have my folders for downloads/videos/documents and music.  I moved the default location from my SSD C: Drive to my HDD. 
That's really handy in case Windows 10 has to be installed again for some reason. 

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