Another 737 down

[Vraciu]

He says grounding was the right thing to do but I missed the reason why.

Because he doesn’t have a reason why.   

This was a knee jerk decision influenced directly by politics and appearance rather than rationality.    If the rest of the world wants to dive off a cliff let them.  The FAA should have kept it flying.    Trump had to put the bogus conflict of interest firestorm out before it got going so here we are. 

[Vraciu]

”Was the initial scoffing by U.S. pilots an example of pilot exceptionalism? Perhaps. I look at it more from the standpoint of training, knowledge, and confidence in my own seat-of-the-pants flying skill honed from decades of flying real airplanes as opposed to simulators.

(...)

“Naturally, any of these accidents could have happened to U.S. pilots, but I think the chances of that are exponentially smaller because most U.S. airline pilots were trained primarily in airplanes, not simulators. The United States’ relatively healthy general aviation industry (as well as the military) trains pilots in actual airplanes, cementing the seat-of-the-pants feel that a simulator just can’t replicate. In most parts of the world, general aviation has been regulated out of the sky...”




Racisssssss!!!   

[FLS]

He mentioned point number two.

I agree with the rest of your comment.

I'm not seeing an explicit thrust/speed comment, just high loads on the tail and the conflict between the yoke and jack screw requiring neutral yoke.

[Vraciu]

I'm not seeing an explicit thrust/speed comment, just high loads on the tail and the conflict between the yoke and jack screw requiring neutral yoke.

I just edited the post to include it.



“Further, power was left at the takeoff setting, increasing airspeed to and beyond VMO, setting off yet another alarm (overspeed clacker) and putting yet higher loads on the tail.”

[Puma44]

He would be correct in his reasoning for grounding. It’s supposed to be fixed by August I read the other day

Where did you read that, Ace?

[Vraciu]

Where do you read that, Ace?

Just can't help yourself feeding the troll, can ya'?

[ACE]

Where do you read that, Ace?

I read it online.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/transport/article/3012345/boeing-737-max-unlikely-fly-again-middle-summer-air

Was just scrolling the web and came across it. I’m not saying it’s true. It’s just what I read. So do so at your own assumption.

[Puma44]

I read it online.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/transport/article/3012345/boeing-737-max-unlikely-fly-again-middle-summer-air

Was just scrolling the web and came across it. I’m not saying it’s true. It’s just what I read. So do so at your own assumption.

Thanks! 👍

[ACE]

Thanks!

No problem!

Edit: I did some sight seeing at my local AFB and they have a beautiful F4 out front. Can I share with you some pictures via PM and some simple questions I know you got the answers to?

[Puma44]

No problem!

Edit: I did some sight seeing at my local AFB and they have a beautiful F4 out front. Can I share with you some pictures via PM and some simple questions I know you got the answers to?

Sure.

[FLS]

I just edited the post to include it.



“Further, power was left at the takeoff setting, increasing airspeed to and beyond VMO, setting off yet another alarm (overspeed clacker) and putting yet higher loads on the tail.”

Thanks. Brain fart. Skimmed over it twice in the article.

[Vraciu]

Thanks. Brain fart. Skimmed over it twice in the article.

You're welcome, sir.   

[mikeWe9a]

Yesterday's video by Blancolirio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4qDLR4s45U) indicated that Boeing either has provided or is about to provide the FAA with its proposed fixes for the 737 Max, though the FAA has no timetable set for the recertification process.

Mike

[ACE]

Yesterday's video by Blancolirio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4qDLR4s45U) indicated that Boeing either has provided or is about to provide the FAA with its proposed fixes for the 737 Max, though the FAA has no timetable set for the recertification process.

Mike

Awesome. Glad they are being transparent about what went wrong and how they are going to fix it.

[Vraciu]

Yesterday's video by Blancolirio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4qDLR4s45U) indicated that Boeing either has provided or is about to provide the FAA with its proposed fixes for the 737 Max, though the FAA has no timetable set for the recertification process.

Mike

Falling on a double-edged sword.