THAT Symbol

[OldNitro]

If we are going to have moral outrage of symbols???
How about the gold star on a red field, or the hammer a sickle???

Slaughtered more than the Nazis..

[Devil 505]

If we are going to have moral outrage of symbols???
How about the gold star on a red field, or the hammer a sickle???

Slaughtered more than the Nazis..

You do realize that the 6 million Jews plus all the other "undesirable" civilians murdered by the Nazis during the war was just the beginning, right?

What Stalin did would pale in comparison to what Hitler would have been able to do had he been in control of Eastern Europe and Western Russia until 1953.

Here's a little fact just to illustrate. Hitler ordered that the city of Leningrad not be taken force, but to instead cut it off from the rest of Russia by surrounding it and starving its inhabitants to death. During the 872 day siege, 1.5 million Russians were killed within the city - mostly by starvation. That is one city in less than 3 years, while the SS mostly occupied with fighting a war and beginning the industrial slaughter with the Jews. Do the math.

Stalin is nowhere near good, but easily the lesser of two evils.

[Arlo]

What Devil said. Also, neither China nor Russia place restrictions on either symbol and I doubt AHIII would be prohibited in either nation for those symbols appearing on skins in game.

[The Fugitive]

Why do people insist on bringing up the past like it was the present? Yes what Hitler did was horrible, the "symbol" represented that horror, but today it is nothing. Black WERE slaves , but they are not now. They are treated much the same as everyone else is, with respect when deserved and with contempt when deserved just like the whites, the reds or any other color. Why must the media continue to push this crap on everyone?

A symbol is a symbol. The only power it has is what everyone gives it. Grow up people.

[Volron]

Devil:  Let's say HTC decided to allow the Nazi Swastika and asked all skinners that skins be updated to be as historically accurate as possible, would you add them to yours?  Mind you, he asks that they be updated to be as historically accurate as possible.  It is not a requirement nor will there be removal of skins if left as is.


Personally if I saw the Nazi Swastika in-game on planes and vehicles that had them, I wouldn't care.  It would be pretty obvious it is for the historical accuracy of skins.  Problem is, plenty of folks out there won't see that way, so it's fairly easy to see why HTC chose the route they chose if simply for this. 

[Arlo]

Why do people insist on bringing up the past like it was the present? Grow up people.

Agreed:

[zack1234]

Lol that bloke with Kraut flag had been dressed by his mother

You can judge a person by his atire.

Arlo where's sandles, red ones.

[Copprhed]

Why do people insist on bringing up the past like it was the present? Yes what Hitler did was horrible, the "symbol" represented that horror, but today it is nothing. Black WERE slaves , but they are not now. They are treated much the same as everyone else is, with respect when deserved and with contempt when deserved just like the whites, the reds or any other color. Why must the media continue to push this crap on everyone?

A symbol is a symbol. The only power it has is what everyone gives it. Grow up people.

Fugitive, if you really believe that you are beyond hope, man. Slavery by DEFINITION cannot include the word RESPECT.

[DmonSlyr]

Agreed:

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Lol that bloke with Kraut flag had been dressed by his mother

You can judge a person by his atire.

Arlo where's sandles, red ones.

Notice the brand new flags right out of the box? I wonder who sold them those flags? Looks like a contrived fake propaganda team to me trying to cause division among Americans so the left can have a 'cause' to attack and blame it on 'right wingers'.

Bill Clinton used the Confederate flag with his running mate as a poster in the south for votes.

They are still pushing propaganda today to cause strife and division so we can fight each other instead of every one pointing the finger at 'them' for their crimes.

[The Fugitive]

Fugitive, if you really believe that you are beyond hope, man. Slavery by DEFINITION cannot include the word RESPECT.

Do you know how to read? As I said, there are  NO slaves in America.  People are judged on the basis of their actions.  A person will be respected if they deserve to be respected and not by the color of their skin. If they are an @zz they are treated like one, again no matter the car of their skin.

The .media is the one that pushes other agendas. Respect PEOPLE, Slavery is long gone, it is only history now. Yes a terrible history,  but history just the same.

[Arlo]

Do you know how to read? As I said, there are  NO slaves in America.  People are judged on the basis of their actions.  A person will be respected if they deserve to be respected and not by the color of their skin. If they are an @zz they are treated like one, again no matter the car of their skin.

The .media is the one that pushes other agendas. Respect PEOPLE, Slavery is long gone, it is only history now. Yes a terrible history,  but history just the same.

If you think there is no racial prejudice being practiced in this nation because of the abolition of slavery then you live in a bubble. Abolition was never equality.

[redcatcherb412]

Notice the brand new flags right out of the box? I wonder who sold them those flags?

An American retailer, but pretty good chance the flags are chicom manufacture.

[Arlo]

An American retailer, but pretty good chance the flags are chicom manufacture.

It actually doesn't matter. It's not being flown to show off an historical artifact. It's being flown to show off a hateful ideology.

[DmonSlyr]

It actually doesn't matter. It's not being flown to show off an historical artifact. It's being flown to show off a hateful ideology.

By a former CNN employee...

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You do realize that the 6 million Jews plus all the other "undesirable" civilians murdered by the Nazis during the war was just the beginning, right?

What Stalin did would pale in comparison to what Hitler would have been able to do had he been in control of Eastern Europe and Western Russia until 1953.

Here's a little fact just to illustrate. Hitler ordered that the city of Leningrad not be taken force, but to instead cut it off from the rest of Russia by surrounding it and starving its inhabitants to death. During the 872 day siege, 1.5 million Russians were killed within the city - mostly by starvation. That is one city in less than 3 years, while the SS mostly occupied with fighting a war and beginning the industrial slaughter with the Jews. Do the math.

Stalin is nowhere near good, but easily the lesser of two evils.

Unfortunately Stalin was not any better if you look at numbers alone:

John Heidenrich Estimate
Kulaks / Forced Collectivisation    7 million
Gulags                                   12 million
Purges                                  1.2 million

Robert Conquest, in his book The Great Terror: A Reassessment, divides the figure another way – this time by date, rather than by category:
Robert Conquest Estimate
1930-36                                     7  million
1937-38                                 3  million
1939-53                                10 million