Author Topic: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370  (Read 1161 times)

Offline Mister Fork

  • AvA Staff Member
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7257
Excellent article from The Atlantic on what really happened to Malaysia Flight MH370.

It's about a 20-30 minute read. Excellent for those on lunch or coffee breaks.
"Games are meant to be fun and fair but fighting a war is neither." - HiTech

Offline zack1234

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13213
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2019, 01:51:23 AM »
I cant read :old:

Whats it say?
There are no pies stored in this plane overnight

                          
The GFC
Pipz lived in the Wilderness near Ontario

Offline Toad

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18415
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2019, 08:28:55 AM »
It is good. Same guy that wrote the Vanity Fair article on AF 447.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

Offline mikeWe9a

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 261
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2019, 09:02:09 AM »
I cant read :old:

Whats it say?

Pilot took the airplane and flew south, crashing in the Southern Indian Ocean.
Some guy who skips around the world with no paying job has spent the last several years on an obsessive hunt for wreckage, becoming the single largest source of wreckage.
Malaysia has resisted any disclosure of results from their "investigations," which follow the traditional model in authoritarian regimes of being intended first and foremost as tools to ensure that the population doesn't blame the government.  They primarily wish that the very concept that it ever happened would vanish from the collective memory of the world.

Mike

Offline zack1234

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13213
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2019, 10:54:39 AM »
So it crashed then?
There are no pies stored in this plane overnight

                          
The GFC
Pipz lived in the Wilderness near Ontario

Offline Shuffler

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 27068
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2019, 11:47:45 AM »
So it crashed then?

In tiny pieces.
80th FS "Headhunters"

S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning In A Bottle)

Offline Vraciu

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 14139
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2019, 01:03:46 PM »
It was MCAS.   :old:
”KILLER V”
Charter Member of the P-51 Mustang Skin Mafia
- THE DAMNED -
King of the Hill Champ Tour 219 - Win Percentage 100
"1v1 Skyyr might be the best pilot ever to play the game." - Via PM, Name Redacted

Offline Mister Fork

  • AvA Staff Member
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7257
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2019, 02:23:02 PM »
It was MCAS.   :old:

Here is the crux of what Will Langewiesche said:
- the Malay government purposefully misled the initial investigation, the initial search, everything because right away they knew the pilot was flying the aircraft like a crazy person based on the radar data they had
- same government has also stifled all investigations, misled media, and lied to the FAA, FBI, and other investigative bodies on the mental health of the pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah.
- Zaharie had MSX on his computer, which BTW, had the same route of a planned flight on the game which he then took the MH370 on the same flight weeks later
- Zaharie was depressed, and probably not in a good space. Similar to other pilots who flew their aircraft into the water/mountains - like EgyptAir and others
- his best friend is convinced that Zaharie is 100% responsible for the accident, and the Malay government for the cover-up (like any dictatorship would do).
- Will goes into the most-likely scenario on how he did it.  He had the co-pilot leave the cockpit, donned his air mask, turned off the air into the plane for 40-50 minutes, turned it back on, and then flew the plane until it ran out of gas and nose-dived the airplane into the sea which broke up into a billion pieces at a high rate of speed (15000+fpm impact).
- the reason why no wreckage debris site was ever found was the the Malaysian government, on purpose, sent S&R and other investigating bodies to the wrong area, thousands of miles away, so the plane wouldn't be found and they not held responsible.
- to put it into perspective, the Air France airplane that crashed - they knew EXACTLY where it hit the water, and it took them two years to find the aircraft.
- bits and pieces of the aircraft have been showing up all along the coast of Madagascar and other surrounding areas. All showing high-speed impact damage.
- what Mike also said. Blaine Gibson volunteered his own time - but now is facing death threats - possibly from China/Malaysia authorities.

:salute
« Last Edit: June 18, 2019, 02:27:24 PM by Mister Fork »
"Games are meant to be fun and fair but fighting a war is neither." - HiTech

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6974
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2019, 06:47:22 PM »
What if he hypoxia'd the crew/passengers and tried to fly NOE somewhere but screwed up and contacted the water at 350+kts?   

We do it all the time because it's harder than it seems.

Offline perdue3

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4672
C.O. Kommando Nowotny 

FlyKommando.com

 

Offline Vraciu

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 14139
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2019, 08:44:27 AM »
 :rofl :aok
”KILLER V”
Charter Member of the P-51 Mustang Skin Mafia
- THE DAMNED -
King of the Hill Champ Tour 219 - Win Percentage 100
"1v1 Skyyr might be the best pilot ever to play the game." - Via PM, Name Redacted

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6974
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2019, 05:19:13 PM »
If he dove in from anything but super low altitude, some pretty large parts would have left the plane before it contacted the water.

Offline Vraciu

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 14139
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2019, 05:27:57 PM »
If he dove in from anything but super low altitude, some pretty large parts would have left the plane before it contacted the water.

Says who?

You can put that thing through Mach 1 and keep everything on it.

I've seen jets Mach Tuck from 35,000'+ and the largest piece is the size of a quarter.
”KILLER V”
Charter Member of the P-51 Mustang Skin Mafia
- THE DAMNED -
King of the Hill Champ Tour 219 - Win Percentage 100
"1v1 Skyyr might be the best pilot ever to play the game." - Via PM, Name Redacted

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6974
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2019, 09:30:50 PM »
Please provide the ntsb reports supporting your claim of a passenger jet achieving Mach 1 in the dense air of low altitude without shedding sizeable parts.   

I've seen plenty of wreckage from water crash sites without your claimed "largest piece was the size of a quarter.   

At garber restoration facility, I've worked with plenty of wreckage and I don't see evidence of your claim. 

Even galloping ghost going in near vertical into concrete left sizeable parts as did Ken Burnstine's Miss Suzy Q.   

Interestingly, the canopy to Burnstine's other mustang was fitted to galloping ghost.


« Last Edit: June 19, 2019, 10:01:11 PM by icepac »

Offline Vraciu

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 14139
Re: What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane MH370
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2019, 09:46:49 PM »
Please provide the ntsb reports supporting your claim because I've seen plenty of wreckage from water crash sites without your claimed "largest piece was the size of a quarter.   

At garber restoration facility, I've worked with plenty of wreckage and I don't see evidence of your claim and I doubt an airliner going in from 35k has ever contacted the surface without shedding some good size parts along the way.

I don't have to do your research for you.   Try a search engine.   Plenty of official reports to verify my claim.

Getting pretty tired of your anecdotal nonsense at the Gerber (sic) facility, too.

Do some math.  Just because you're doing 760 MPH when you hit doesn't mean it has to be in a vertical straight line--though it can be and has been.    And a jet like a 777 is over engineered to a ridiculous degree.   It would have to be going like hell to lose parts.

The simple fact of the matter is that your assertion requiring this crash to have been initiated from low altitude lest it shed pieces is nonsense.    Anything else is gnat-straining and thus utterly beside the point.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2019, 10:03:46 PM by Vraciu »
”KILLER V”
Charter Member of the P-51 Mustang Skin Mafia
- THE DAMNED -
King of the Hill Champ Tour 219 - Win Percentage 100
"1v1 Skyyr might be the best pilot ever to play the game." - Via PM, Name Redacted