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Offline Arlo

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50 yrs ago ....
« on: July 20, 2019, 11:16:03 PM »
.... we lived off base at Norfolk. I sat on the carpet next to Dad's recliner. I was seven. We watched history being made together.


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Re: 50 yrs ago ....
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2019, 11:34:51 PM »
I sat on the floor in front of Dad's recliner. I was 10.
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Re: 50 yrs ago ....
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2019, 12:24:45 AM »
I am firmly on the fence here.  I do not think we did it however willing to listen to both sides of the discussion.

My opinion is it was a cold war propaganda must have and am not sure it was actually achieved.

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2019, 12:29:35 AM »
I am firmly on the fence here.  I do not think we did it however willing to listen to both sides of the discussion.

My opinion is it was a cold war propaganda must have and am not sure it was actually achieved.

This isn't a conspiracy debate thread. Go take it up with Buzz.

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Re: 50 yrs ago ....
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2019, 12:33:14 AM »
This isn't a conspiracy debate thread. Go take it up with Buzz.

Rgr.  so you are obviously not willing to engage in discussion.  After all you were 7 and you saw what you saw right?

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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2019, 12:44:26 AM »
Rgr.  so you are obviously not willing to engage in discussion.  After all you were 7 and you saw what you saw right?

This is a tribute thread to one of the most amazing moments in history. You don't have to believe it but it wasn't an invite for you to come show your backside. Your post has been reported and hopefully your hijack will be addressed.

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2019, 12:56:14 AM »
This is a tribute thread to one of the most amazing moments in history. You don't have to believe it but it wasn't an invite for you to come show your backside. Your post has been reported and hopefully your hijack will be addressed.

How was that a hijack?  I simply said I was on the fence.  Man you have to understand there are other opinions out there.

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2019, 03:44:28 AM »
Fess, if America had not done it then Russia would still be trying to, so that they could install doomsday weapons on the moon. Every argument that it didn't happen, is based on nonsense.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2019, 06:09:50 AM »
Simply look at what is left on the moon. Nothing more to be said.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2019, 07:24:54 AM »
Well, there is the problem of not being able to see it with the optics limitations and all. You have to be an expert at microwaves to bounce radio off of the landers, which has been done. Otherwise you have to spend a lot of money just to prove there are things there, and then it would still be denied.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2019, 08:33:44 AM »
There are still people who believe the earth is flat and all the evidence against it is a conspiracy.

50 years ago the US has pull off perhaps the greatest feat in human history - for all the wrong reasons. I am not talking about the moon landing itself - that is just the tip of it, and frankly, placing a man on the moon had nealy zero scientific meaning.

First, the feat.
What the US achieved is an awe inspiring demonstration of what happens when all the shackles and restraints come off and scientists and engineers are allowed to go all out bonkers. The goal that president Kennedy has set (man on the moon before the end of the decade) was like Columbus pitching the idea to sail around the world before the invention of sails and ocean navigation. This was completely crazy.

Amazingly it worked! When science was unleashed science-fiction became exact science. When Niel and Buzz were hopping on the moon it was an engineering victory above all else. This is the kind if event that sends ripples through history and across the globe. I forgot which one of them said it, but he said he was amazed when he heard people from other countries saying that “we” did it - as in “mankind”, not just the Yanks.

I can testify to the magnitude of the ripples from this event. Inspite of being born some 4 years sfter the last moon landing, half a world away from the US, in a village with no phone at home and a B&W TV, I was as a child completely fascinated with this. Looking at the moon and being told that people recently walked on it left me wide eyed and open mouthed. Lots of kids wanted to be astronauts back then - but I very early realized that I wated to be the scientist. Life is complicated, but I consider the “Apollo effect” to be a major reason I ended up being a physicist and astronomer in particular.

Now the reasons -
The US did not go to the moon because it cared about science or humanity, or turning some kid in a village into a scientist. It went to the moon to beat the Russians. The Russians went to space to scare the Americans. So in the end, it was all about petty human disputes snd conflicts. It is very unlikely to go this path again any time soon. The ending of the cold war is the worst thing that happened to science. Without it, “progress” today is having emogies on your iPhone that mimic your face - we could have had colonies on Mars by now! But no - we wastesll our creativity and brain power on self indulgence and recreational commodities.

Maybe Elon Musk is the only guy that gets it. That still dream really big, like a 5 years old kid.
We need many many more people like that.

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Re: 50 yrs ago ....
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2019, 08:43:27 AM »
Well, there is the problem of not being able to see it with the optics limitations and all. You have to be an expert at microwaves to bounce radio off of the landers, which has been done. Otherwise you have to spend a lot of money just to prove there are things there, and then it would still be denied.

The astronauts planted corner reflectors on the moon. They are used for reflecting lasers back to the source with minimal scatter.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

Many people have used it already. The reflectors are definitely up there.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2019, 08:49:04 AM »
People who deny the moon landing and think the Earth is flat are nuts...

how about this one???

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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2019, 09:49:47 AM »
Quote I read this morning

"Anyone subscribing to Apollo conspiracy theories does so only after making a deliberate, willful decision, with full knowledge and malice aforethought, to embrace a lie. Why do they do it? Probably because it enables little men to tell themselves that they are really Big Men, because they know more than ordinary little people, whom they can then scorn. It is a lot easier for mediocre people to believe that they are Great People just by telling themselves that they are, than it is to achieve real greatness through talent and hard work."
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