How have we lost so many people to this wonderful game?

[Lusche]

Only on page 2 but here I go...
I wouldn't call it a duel if at anytime a guy can come into the fight / engagement you are in which is what happens in KOTH. I won't ask where the duel idea was conjured up.

Yes you are right, I used the wrong term for what I meant.

[TwinBoom]

where does KOTH fit into this statement?

Remove Icons until then its just gang the better guys. teamed pickfest

remembers the BluKitty video
 id play if icons were disabled

[The Fugitive]

The point is something has to be done, right or wrong. If nothing is done the game will continue it slow decline. If Hitech had 15- 20 minutes I'd bet he could do the math and tell you the month, day, and year the game will close if it continues as it is now.

Make a change for a month or two and gauge how it effects the game. If it has a negative impact restore it and try something else. At least you will have proven which ideas help and which dont.

As for the free planes in the MA, Im all for it. Even if it doesnt bring in any new subscriptions ( Im sure it will) if it adds another 100 players to the arena at all times its a huge win.

Staying with what we have, we KNOW is slowly killing the game. Why not try something else?

[ccvi]

I was already in Warbirds.   So I had all the alternative I needed.   We also had CFS.

Warbirds came at a price, and didn't have free arenas. Not sure about CFS, but finding people for a LAN session was probably difficult, and online-multiplayer probably didn't work with 3 clicks of the mouse, but needed to set up some kind of server? AH H2H otoh simply works, and was (is) free.

[FLS]

The point is something has to be done, right or wrong. ...

Right or wrong? Really?

An urgent need to do something that could be wrong?

Maybe you should sit this one out.

[CptTrips]

Staying with what we have, we KNOW is slowly killing the game. Why not try something else?

I believe there is a percentage of players who would perfectly be willing to see the game close in 2-5 years rather see a single significant change now. 

They see any material change as the same thing as shutting it down anyway.  Hitech's accountant might not share that view.

That's why I've said fine, freeze this one in carbonite, go do a different one.

[FLS]

Nobody is worried about change, that's one of your straw men.

It's the good idea that's lacking. Your analysis and arguments are weak.

[Vraciu]

Warbirds came at a price, and didn't have free arenas. Not sure about CFS, but finding people for a LAN session was probably difficult, and online-multiplayer probably didn't work with 3 clicks of the mouse, but needed to set up some kind of server? AH H2H otoh simply works, and was (is) free.

Worked just fine.   I had zero interest in AH.  Then on a lark tried 8-player.    Did it for a short while.   Left.    Came back to it again.   Stayed awhile.   Tried the Main.   Left awhile.  Came back.   Stayed for good.

Without the 8-player I would never have subscribed.

I'm sure Hitech can tell you to the penny how much revenue that I've paid him.   It all started with something free with no time limit.

[Vraciu]

Right or wrong? Really?

An urgent need to do something that could be wrong?

Maybe you should sit this one out.

Yes, right or wrong.    You can't know which it is until you try it.

[CptTrips]

Nobody is worried about change, that's one of your straw men.

It's the good idea that's lacking. Your analysis and arguments are weak.

Wiley has said exactly that.  If you change it materially, it is the same as shutting it down.

[Vraciu]

Nobody is worried about change, that's one of your straw men.

It's the good idea that's lacking. Your analysis and arguments are weak.

There have been dozens of good ideas.   What is lacking is the will to try them, right or wrong.   Go bold or go cold.  That's the choice here.

[guncrasher]

There have been dozens of good ideas.   What is lacking is the will to try them, right or wrong.   Go bold or go cold.  That's the choice here.

You are right, dozens of good ideas and hi-tech implemented them, bad ones not so much.

By the way, why don't you guys read what hi-tech posts?  A little while ago, he posted that he was warming up to something similar. Why not expand on that?   Look up his posts and debate that.  I think it was 1 month ago but not longer than 6.

Semp

[The Fugitive]

Right or wrong? Really?

An urgent need to do something that could be wrong?

Maybe you should sit this one out.

There is an urgent need to DO something. If it turns out to be wrong change it back and try something else. Does that make more sense to you? 

[Max]

Has anyone considered the possibility that Hitech just doesn't give a rat's bellybutton at this point?

Consider:
1. As someone recently said, he's made a killing on this game over the years.
2. Since inception, any change of any kind is met with a contingency of support, and a contingency of naysayers. No matter what, he loses customer base.
3. As income subsides, expenses need to be curtailed, i.e. less money for programmers, artists, customer support, etc.
3. HTC has the all the actual data he could possibly shake a stick at, and more but without the human resources needed to augment changes, what's the point.
4. Given the drop in revenues, new income streams (think revitalization via new capital investment) are null.

Frankly speaking, in the past few years there have been scores of ideas and reiteration of previous suggestions,which were mostly ignored. Probably for the fear that they might drive customers away. Now the die's been cast and resources are few to change the direction of a large ship, running out of fuel. Sooner or later the fuel tanks are empty and it will continue to drift. Would anyone disagree we're in the drift stage?

[CptTrips]

There is an urgent need to DO something. If it turns out to be wrong change it back and try something else. Does that make more sense to you? 

He is just trolling.  That is all he does.
It's best to just ignore him.