How To Fix The Game

[Copprhed]

HiTech, the way to fix the game is to get rid of everybody who "knows how to fix the game". Whiners are the bane of the earth.

[Vinkman]

HiTech, the way to fix the game is to get rid of everybody who "knows how to fix the game". Whiners are the bane of the earth.

I propose that the exact opposite might be true. The only problem with the game is the players. OK "Whining" is pejorative, but discussing some of the game play "issues" that bothers people help people to realize that an adjustment in their Behavior or attitude about others is all the adjustment that's needed. 

Whining is feedback.  Most players unfortunately reject it outright, instead of listening to their fellow players. But they want HiTech to "Fix" something.  It reminds me of the people Marching on Washington to fix global warming. Instead March to you basement, find the big gray panel, open it, find the switch that says "MAIN" move it to the left.  Warming stopped.

In the end my advice is talk to your fellow players and try to work it out.  Maybe keep it generic instead of "Hey you no talent hack noob, hording, gangtard...etc.."   I find that makes it worse.

 

[AAIK]

HiTech, the way to fix the game is to get rid of everybody who "knows how to fix the game". Whiners are the bane of the earth.

The only reason why we hear these whiners is because of the lack of numbers.

Normally complains and suggestions are hid amongst the myriad of posts and comments but since those are lessened we get to see the surface underneath: It seems like the more hardcore players whine the most. These are the people that are keeping the game alive and HTC afloat so I wouldn't go so quickly to insult them.

[FLS]

The only reason why we hear these whiners is because of the lack of numbers.

You must be new. 

[Vraciu]

The only reason why we hear these whiners is because of the lack of numbers.

Normally complains and suggestions are hid amongst the myriad of posts and comments but since those are lessened we get to see the surface underneath: It seems like the more hardcore players whine the most. These are the people that are keeping the game alive and HTC afloat so I wouldn't go so quickly to insult them.

Bingo.

[CptTrips]

I propose that the exact opposite might be true. The only problem with the game is the players. OK "Whining" is pejorative, but discussing some of the game play "issues" that bothers people help people to realize that an adjustment in their Behavior or attitude about others is all the adjustment that's needed. 

You can never change people.
Code is the only lever you have.

[Vraciu]

You can never change people.
Code is the only lever you have.

Code = Power

[bustr]

Another concession to low numbers and the time to fight making AH3 seem very slow to younger players\potential new customers. Change the up time for maps to 4 or 6 ours so wining a map for them is a tangible accomplishment to work for. Many of our numbers\timers are scaled from the past and 400 players swarming a map. So 400 players would want the map around long enough to keep initiatives going or the illusion of that.

Today 100-120, 7 days on the same map is killing younger people with boredom. Yes they have the choice to gear up and flip the map, but, how many do we really have with us. And they will be the ones telling other young people how fast or boring our game is. The MA is the size it is becasue it is the essence of AH the game making it not the competitors game. Time is now the game's problem. All the customers are in the MA and not in WO:P or the other arenas. Time to accomplish anything is still scaled from 2007. I tested that on FjordMA with the unique way I setup GV spawns at all bases. At least the GVers were having fun becasue I scaled time to target to drop them in each others laps.

[Vinkman]

You can never change people.
Code is the only lever you have.

In my experience in life, and the 20 years I'll been playing Dale's games, I do not find that to be true. People's skill level changes and so their play changes. Also, people's expectations of success in the game change and hence their 'whining' and behaviors evolve. Have more faith in people.  When get upset in this game it's usually at my self. On the rare occasion it's at someone else it's because the internet has stopped me from realizing it's a real person. When I remember that, I calm right down and enjoy myself. 

[FLS]

We're all on the same side here. 

[whiteman]

I tested that on FjordMA with the unique way I setup GV spawns at all bases. At least the GVers were having fun becasue I scaled time to target to drop them in each others laps.

Really like that map and actually got me in a GV, much better being able to spawn out their rather than driving 15 minutes to just die. Hope that’s the standard with maps going forward.

Also think putting a timer on the maps is a good idea. I absolutely hate short match play style’s, but maps that don’t flip for a week gets old. Maybe have a day with fast rotations and most captures takes the map, Blitz mode.

[CptTrips]

In my experience in life, and the 20 years I'll been playing Dale's games, I do not find that to be true. People's skill level changes and so their play changes. Also, people's expectations of success in the game change and hence their 'whining' and behaviors evolve. Have more faith in people.  When get upset in this game it's usually at my self. On the rare occasion it's at someone else it's because the internet has stopped me from realizing it's a real person. When I remember that, I calm right down and enjoy myself.

I didn't say you can't change yourself.  I'm just saying you can't change anyone else.

You can't just say, "hey guys lets just play the game differently", but you can alter code to incentivize or de-incentivize or disallow certain behaviors.

[Spikes]

You can't just say, "hey guys lets just play the game differently", but you can alter code to incentivize or de-incentivize or disallow certain behaviors.

Pretty much this. All games do it. If a meta develops that isn't intended to be meta, things get changed to make it no longer meta.

[mora]

This game certainly will not attract anyone with realism. People will or better should accept the inaccuracies and generalizations, in exchange for gameplay. The FM could use some tweaking by making the planes feel a bit more free, and maybe tweak the ballistics to be a bit worse for some weapons. I used to play IL-2 for a few years, and yes I wanted the game to feel as much the same as possible. I managed to do that, but then again I had experience from about 2000 - 2005. Without that experience I would have given up, it's just too complicated for a newbie. Everybody uses TIR now, but by default your head bounces around to the default snap views when turning your head. By a pure accident I pressed cntrl F2 to enter The mode where I could edit my head positions. The head position should be dead center by default, a new player can edit them later. Also there should be absolutely no control deadzone by default and a little bit of damping. Also the combat trim should maybe be off by default at least for people with a head tracker, they will know how to trim and can decide to use it later. It's amazing how almost everything can be customized, just the default settings could use some tinkering. I did a free 2 weeks almost 2 years ago, and I feel the MA numbers are up. I subscribed because I saw 85 people in the MA and I've seen over 100, I think it's pretty amazing.

[Vraciu]

Pretty much this. All games do it. If a meta develops that isn't intended to be meta, things get changed to make it no longer meta.

Exactly.   If behavior wasn't affected by code there wouldn't be ENY, side switch timers,  kill shooter, etc..