Kobe Bryant dies in helicopter crash...

[puller]

What a shame 

[whiteman]

Just don’t like Helicopters, seems like if it goes bad all you can do is hold on and hope for the best.

[Shuffler]

Just don’t like Helicopters, seems like if it goes bad all you can do is hold on and hope for the best.

Depends on what goes bad. Autogyro...

[JOACH1M]

So sad

[Spikes]

A damn shame. Initial ATC chatter seems to point to some sort of pilot error.

[Oldman731]

A damn shame. Initial ATC chatter seems to point to some sort of pilot error.

GetThereitis is my guess.  Pretty serious fog.

- oldman

[Spikes]

GetThereitis is my guess.  Pretty serious fog.

- oldman

Yep. It seems he was VFR so who knows. I wonder if there was a FDR on board.

[100Coogn]

ATC Communicatons:



Coogan

[Chalenge]

Eye witnesses reported heavy fog. Otherwise, I never cared for the guy and I mourn the loss of his daughter more than him.

[Brooke]

ATC Communicatons:



Coogan

Coogan's link didn't come through for me, so here it is in another link:

[Oldman731]

“A ton of rules come into play, and people don’t always want to fly that way. It takes away their ability to do whatever they want to do,” Cline said. “The trade-off is you get to live.”

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/kobe-bryants-helicopter-likely-succumbed-to-common-danger.html

- oldman

[Toad]

Sikorsky S-76 specs that I have seen show a VNE of 155kts ~ 179mph.

Press reports (yah, I know) say "When it struck the ground, the helicopter was flying at about 184 mph and descending at a rate of more than 4,000 feet per minute, the data showed." (Fox News).

OK..let's see...exceeding VNE and descending 4000 fpm. This is not indicative of an aircraft under control; rather, it's the opposite situation. Normal commercial aviation rarely, if ever, descends at 4,000 fpm and certainly not when the cruise altitude is ~2000' over hillsides that are 1400'.

So, it's clear that Boeing killed Kobe Bryant. Oh..wait...it was Sikorsky...no, wait....Lockheed Martin because they have deeper pockets.

Or maybe, just maybe...

[Shuffler]

Pilots last transmission called 1400'. He flew for awhile after that with no more communication even though ATC was trying to contact him.

[tmetal]

Eye witnesses reported heavy fog. Otherwise, I never cared for the guy and I mourn the loss of his daughter more than him.

Same.

[perdue3]

Eye witnesses reported heavy fog. Otherwise, I never cared for the guy and I mourn the loss of his daughter more than him.

A touch indelicate, no?